Co-OP and the tale of age verification

Zazen999

CWCDiver wrote: »

But Sainsbury sell me Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce without the need to show ID, because the product is Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce.

Some people just aren't getting it; they are so used to explaining the illogical to exasperated customers that they can't see the total lunacy of the situation.

[Deleted User]

Out of interest does anyone know what the 5 types of i.d are that tesco accept?? I went to tesco before xmas, i'm 25 and i am a pub manager so i know all about licensing laws and the fines involved etc, i do look young for my age but i dont drive and dont like to carry my passport with me every time i go out of the house shopping, i decided to buy some beer for xmas and got asked for id by the cashier (i accept they are doing their job, i do it every week and have to refuse service all the time)....all i had on me was my personal licence- which for anyone who doesn't know is a licence to sell alcohol!!! she wouldn't accept it so i asked to speak to supervisor...then manager....he told me that Yes he knew what a personal licence was (which was a start seen as though someone on duty at the time had to have one legally-which i stated to him) and Yes he knew that that meant i was able to sell alcohol yet alone buy it but was still not going to let me buy it anyway as it wasnt one of tesco's 5 acceptable id's.....i wouldn't mind but i didn't even pay as i had forgotton my card so my mum paid on her card for my shopping....all i had actually done was load it on to the till and bag it up....???was thinking of complaining as the cashier and the supervisor were both really rude...especially to my mum and i think they only refused me in the end because i knew more about the licensing laws than them....was so angry i forgot to question what the 5 id's were????

Wildside

noodle84 wrote: »

Out of interest does anyone know what the 5 types of i.d are that tesco accept?? I went to tesco before xmas, i'm 25 and i am a pub manager so i know all about licensing laws and the fines involved etc, i do look young for my age but i dont drive and dont like to carry my passport with me every time i go out of the house shopping, i decided to buy some beer for xmas and got asked for id by the cashier (i accept they are doing their job, i do it every week and have to refuse service all the time)....all i had on me was my personal licence- which for anyone who doesn't know is a licence to sell alcohol!!! she wouldn't accept it so i asked to speak to supervisor...then manager....he told me that Yes he knew what a personal licence was (which was a start seen as though someone on duty at the time had to have one legally-which i stated to him) and Yes he knew that that meant i was able to sell alcohol yet alone buy it but was still not going to let me buy it anyway as it wasnt one of tesco's 5 acceptable id's.....i wouldn't mind but i didn't even pay as i had forgotton my card so my mum paid on her card for my shopping....all i had actually done was load it on to the till and bag it up....???was thinking of complaining as the cashier and the supervisor were both really rude...especially to my mum and i think they only refused me in the end because i knew more about the licensing laws than them....was so angry i forgot to question what the 5 id's were????

:rotfl::rotfl:So they accept your ID stating you are 25 then don't sell it to you in case you give some to your Mum in case she is younger than you:T:rotfl::T:rotfl::T:rotfl:

Wildside

I do internet shopping, starting to wonder if they are going to want to search the house to see if there is any one with out ID or under 18. Maybe I will have to hide the children in a cupboard when they deliver if theres a bottle of wine in my order.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Sharon87

I was in Sainsburys last month and bought some wine (I'm 22), they have a Challenge 25 policy and I DIDN'T get ID'd! I was thinking to myself - do I look over 25? lol.

Although when I worked at Asda at uni someone who worked with me asked me for ID, even though she knew I was over 18 as all checkout staff are 18 and over.

As for the till flagging up products I think it's funny, the till asked me to check ID for spoons once. I was about to ask the woman and then I realised what it was. I always tried to use commone sense working on tills. I didn't care if parents had their teenagers with them, if they wanted to give them alcohol that's perfectly legal. I remember going with my mum to do the monthly shop and she bought me some alcohol to drink in the house (I was 16 at the time), the cashier didn't care either.

oldone_2

Let us get rid of one misconception. Yes a shop assistant may be fined for selling to someone underage, but no action will be taken against them if that over-age person is accompanied by someone under 18.
There have been NO recorded court cases of this happening, and never will be.

You cannot prosecute someone for what a third party might or might not do.

Zazen999

Perhaps they don't think that under 18s are CAPABLE of opening a jar of tomato based sauce, and heating it up themselves? Perhaps it's not the 'alcohol even though there is no alcohol in there whatsoever' issue.

Wildside

oldone wrote: »

Let us get rid of one misconception. Yes a shop assistant may be fined for selling to someone underage, but no action will be taken against them if that over-age person is accompanied by someone under 18.
There have been NO recorded court cases of this happening, and never will be.

You cannot prosecute someone for what a third party might or might not do.

:TWell said oldone:T

boobyd

oldone, not quite correct, you can be prosecuted / fined for third party sales, Licencsing (young persons) Act 2000 and Licensing Act 2003, it is termed as a "Proxy purchase" If a cashier knowingly sold to a adult who they knew were passing to a minor " could " be fined etc.

Wildside

boobyd wrote: »

oldone, not quite correct, you can be prosecuted / fined for third party sales, Licencsing (young persons) Act 2000 and Licensing Act 2003, it is termed as a "Proxy purchase" If a cashier knowingly sold to a adult who they knew were passing to a minor " could " be fined etc.

I don't understand, how would they 'know' who I am or am not going to share it with.
I have never given alcohol to a child, I have however shared it with adults that I know are over 18 without asking for ID (including pensioners;)).
Perhaps they should just say something like 'Are you buying this item for yourself? and/or are you going to share this alcohol with anyone under 18?' Surely that should cover them. Like the airlines ask 'did you pack this bag yourself?' Wouldn't that be better than refusing sales on the assumption of what we might do.

:think:As for Chicken tonight I guess they will have to say 'Are you going to eat all this yourself?';)