Co-OP and the tale of age verification

LilacPixie

I really think some shops just take ID requirments too far.

Last year my parents were having a garden party. I got dispatched to sainsburys with my sister and dad to buy alcohol and soft drinks. My dad has some health issues so the deal was I drive, me an sis do lifting and carrying and dad pays. Quite straight forward, i was 29 and sis 26 at the time. Neither of us look under 18 sis maybe looks under 25.

At checkout sis get asked for ID she produces driving licence all is fine check out assistant then asks me for ID I hand over my driving licence but then he asks dad for ID, dad only has a paper driving licence which is not acceptable as ID andcheckout guy says he cannot sell alcohol to him as he is in a group where one person is suspected of being underage so unless all members of the group produce ID then no sale.

Manager backed this up citing the assistant could be fined. IMO the assistant may of felt either myself or my sister was under 18 but he saw both our driving licences. Did he seriously think a pensioner was underage??

CWCDiver

LilacPixie wrote: »

I really think some shops just take ID requirments too far.

Last year my parents were having a garden party. I got dispatched to sainsburys with my sister and dad to buy alcohol and soft drinks. My dad has some health issues so the deal was I drive, me an sis do lifting and carrying and dad pays. Quite straight forward, i was 29 and sis 26 at the time. Neither of us look under 18 sis maybe looks under 25.

At checkout sis get asked for ID she produces driving licence all is fine check out assistant then asks me for ID I hand over my driving licence but then he asks dad for ID, dad only has a paper driving licence which is not acceptable as ID andcheckout guy says he cannot sell alcohol to him as he is in a group where one person is suspected of being underage so unless all members of the group produce ID then no sale.

Manager backed this up citing the assistant could be fined. IMO the assistant may of felt either myself or my sister was under 18 but he saw both our driving licences. Did he seriously think a pensioner was underage??

If you had that problem with ID I dread to think how you would fare with a tomato based cooking sauce!!

Again it's another example of people not displaying common sense, it's not illegal to sell alcohol to someone who is in the presence of someone who is under 18, let alone to someone who is with an OAP....

Wildside

LilacPixie wrote: »

I really think some shops just take ID requirments too far.

Last year my parents were having a garden party. I got dispatched to sainsburys with my sister and dad to buy alcohol and soft drinks. My dad has some health issues so the deal was I drive, me an sis do lifting and carrying and dad pays. Quite straight forward, i was 29 and sis 26 at the time. Neither of us look under 18 sis maybe looks under 25.

At checkout sis get asked for ID she produces driving licence all is fine check out assistant then asks me for ID I hand over my driving licence but then he asks dad for ID, dad only has a paper driving licence which is not acceptable as ID andcheckout guy says he cannot sell alcohol to him as he is in a group where one person is suspected of being underage so unless all members of the group produce ID then no sale.

Manager backed this up citing the assistant could be fined. IMO the assistant may of felt either myself or my sister was under 18 but he saw both our driving licences. Did he seriously think a pensioner was underage??

:rotfl::rotfl:Pensioners getting asked for ID:rotfl::rotfl:The worlds gone mad:rotfl::rotfl:So I guess the trick is to pretend you don't know each other when you go to the check out, does this also mean that if you have a child with you they won't serve you even if you are not going to let the child drink any of your alcohol (some supermarkets were accused of doing this a while ago), in that case you have to leave the child-no matter how young alone outside the shop:( I don't think so:(:(:(

Storck

The person selling alcohol can only be fined if they sell it to someone under age. The store could lose their license if alcohol is sold to someone who then gives it to someone under age.

I checked this with my local trading standards as I was worried about some training at work about getting fined personally if I sold alcohol to someone who gave it to someone under age.

Wildside

Storck wrote: »

The person selling alcohol can only be fined if they sell it to someone under age. The store could lose their license if alcohol is sold to someone who then gives it to someone under age.

I checked this with my local trading standards as I was worried about some training at work about getting fined personally if I sold alcohol to someone who gave it to someone under age.

Sorry I am not disputing what you have been told, but how can the shop be responsible for what happens after they sell to someone over 18. People are not stupid, the one with out ID or under age will wait outside the shop or pretend not to be with the rest of the group.
Then you sell to the adult, do everything you should check ID etc, check there is no one with them without ID.
Then they walk out the shop & share it with the under 18 year old.....how can the shop be responsible for it. They can not follow everyone who buys alcohol
(or Chicken Tonight;)) home.

Bit different if in a pub or club were the landlord would be responsible for underage drinking on their premises

Wildside

marleyboy wrote: »

Maybe its the Governments underhand tactic to discreetly get us all to invest in buying these new biometric I.D. cards, it wont be long before such supermarkets ONLY accept them as I.D, which needs presenting on every or any purchase possible

I bet we will eventually need them for everything and they will no doubt record everthing we do, everytime we travel on public transport, everytime we use a credit/debit card which means a record of everything we buy, everytime we enter a public building. You name it they will collect data on it....then..........they..........will...............lose it:eek:

jennifer56

everytime we travel on public transport

That happens already with my bus pass

Jennifer

Enfieldian

mippy wrote: »

Casual racism. Brilliant.

PS: it's Mumbai, not Bombay.

Would you prefer if it was more formal? I will see what I can do.

PS: It's Enfield not Mumbai/Bombay/Chenai/Albania/Poland/Ethiopia/Afghanistan/Iraq......

Don't know about you but I prefer being able to converse in English and understand what the staff are saying when shopping in this country.

Zazen999

Storck wrote: »

The person selling alcohol can only be fined if they sell it to someone under age. The store could lose their license if alcohol is sold to someone who then gives it to someone under age.

I checked this with my local trading standards as I was worried about some training at work about getting fined personally if I sold alcohol to someone who gave it to someone under age.

We know this; however the issue is........

There IS NO ALCOHOL in a Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce.

Alchera_2

nickyhutch wrote: »

There might be 5.5% wine in it, but it's cooked, so there wont be any alcohol in it. I don't get the "yes you look over 18" stuff. You might look under 30, but the law stops you buying alcohol under 18, not under 30.

My son couldn't buy a bar butler for his Dad for Christmas because he's 16. He pointed out that it doesn't have any alcohol in it, and the daft assistant at Argos said "yes, but you might put some in it".

Haha! You couldn't make some of these up! But the chicken chasseur one is insane. Of course it won't have any alcohol in it. lol.....