Co-OP and the tale of age verification

Alchera_2

Zazen999 wrote: »

We know this; however the issue is........

There IS NO ALCOHOL in a Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce.

:rotfl:This thread has fairly cheered me up - this is a classic line and said with such...gusto!

Welshwoofs

I got stopped at the age of thirty eight in my local Co-op and asked for my age when buying wine. Being 38 at the time I wasn't in the habit of carrying around photo ID to prove my age.

I have to admit that I glared at the gimp on the till when they asked me for ID, said in a very flinty slow voice "don't be so !!!!ing stupid son..." and was sold my wine without another word.

Ballymackeonan

When you take into account that many food preparation companies will use catering wine which is alcohol reduced to 5% so that they don't pay duty on it, the chance of any residual alcohol in a cooked product is even less .....!

biscit

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

I got asked for ID last night in ASDA to buy a box of Fybogel :rotfl: the checkout flagged it as a restricted item.

Luckily she was joking, but what she also said was that you need ID now for a tube of Bonjela.

ID or age verification? ID is the policy for wine and spirits, but surely it's just a reminder for a visual check for other things.

Bonjella used to be pretty nasty stuff, when my grandma died the woman in the next bed had terrible mouth cancer because she'd abused it. We have the theory that there is baby strength bonjella because people can't be trusted to use the adult strength in sufficiently small doses.

Basically compensation culture means companies have to treat us all like we're all nupties. We all lack bits of common knowledge, of course, but there is an underlying arrogance where many people seem to agressivly round on anyone who expects them to know something they don't.

That's the culture we seem to have now of treating any expectation of common knowledge as unreasonable...

Every time I read someone say "I'm sorry, I don't understand, please can you explain" instead of "Get your head out of your backside and speak English" my heart sings.

voiceofreason

UK2010 wrote: »

Those links are from 1) the people that issue the license to sell alcohol and 2) the people who check it!!!!!

Is it not unreasonable then to assume those are pretty much the ID's that should be accepted to check age!!

Sweet lord.

I never once said that these schemes do not exist, nor that there are more acceptable forms of ID available. I would be fairly dense to do so, as it's self-evident that they're there and all around us.

What I said was that there is no requirement in law for anyone to hold ID in order to buy alcohol - not in the Licensing Act 2003 (as you have stated to be the case on a couple of occasions) nor anywhere else.

Schemes organised by local Trading Standards to give lazy-*rse stores some sort of "excuse" not to sell drink to kids (as if exercising their rights as a retailer and just saying "I'm not selling it to you, you're too drunk/young/aggressive, etc" is not enough) are not the same as this; they're local initiatives, and nothing more.

Think of them as a retail equivalent to Neighbourhood Watch or something - an informal agreement to make sure nothing criminal's committed, but they've not got the force of legislation behind them and they're certainly not the police! - if that makes it easy for you?

And being particularly frank - any personal digs I've aimed at you have been richly, richly deserved. If anything I've been restrained.

DCFC79

CWCDiver wrote: »

As far as I can see there is no legal reason why they couldn't accept them, in actual fact the new laws before parliament in the Licensing Act Order 2010 would mean that at least two forms of my ID would be acceptable.

yes i understand that but what im saying is in sainsburys for example the ID they accept is drivers licence, passport, citizen card

msgnomey

pah went into co-op with DD (aged 20) was asked for ID as I wanted to buy some baccy (I am 42!!!) refused to sell it to me as it might be for her!!!and??????she's old enough and she had ID but I didn't

the world has gone mad IMHO

Helix

DCFC79 wrote: »

yes i understand that but what im saying is in sainsburys for example the ID they accept is drivers licence, passport, citizen card

I believe they do now accept Army ID, I remember them telling us just before I left back in September. They also added the National Identification card that is given to migrants when it went up to Think 25.

The stupid thing is though they never showed there staff examples of what they are meant to look like. There are lots of fake IDs that are similar to driving licences that have National Identification at the top.

fleagle21

My local tesco are still having none of it with the military ID's - they will however accept my photocard driving licence, which carries a photo that looks nothing like me as it was taken when I was 16 - I'm now 27!

CWCDiver

DCFC79 wrote: »

yes i understand that but what im saying is in sainsburys for example the ID they accept is drivers licence, passport, citizen card

But Sainsbury sell me Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce without the need to show ID, because the product is Chicken Tonight Tomato Based Cooking Sauce.