Is this a crime?

Bitsy_Beans

Fonz wrote: »

[I'm a bloke] Of course he's done wrong - he's clearly an enormous cretin and no doubt we'll see him in the midst of a glorious DNA test on the Jeremy Kyle show at some point in the future.

What he did wasn't illegal though and the general theme of the thread is that he has done something which is morally very wrong, whilst she has possibly made a silly mistake by doing something which is wrong in a criminal sense.

I take your point and to a certain extent I agree with it.

I suppose that bugs me is I've seen comments made on other threads suggesting that we female posters wouldn't treat a man in the same circumstances the same way (eg the comment about if a bloke had done this he'd be accused of being a pyscho ex). I disagree and my eyes roll each time I see it trotted out. why can't we just stick to the topic in hand - yes it's a crime, yes in theory she could be prosecuted rather than snide remarks about sisterhood yadda yadda yadda........

Honestly if it was a bloke who'd been cheated on and found out there'd still be the same level of support and probably people who would think it was funny.

Mrs_Imp

suited-aces wrote: »

Pee, they only see it as funny because of some sort of sisterhood thing.

It therefore must follow that the idea it's aserious crime to have committed is because of some brotherhood thing?

kaya

ermmm.......
all he has to do is look in the deleted folder
DOH!

Fonz_2

No that's just the law

alleycat`

Ignoring any of the morality of who did what to whom.

The existance of this thread pretty much says she did it (assuming the cps/police came across it and were interested in a prosecution).

It isn't like most of the people who post on here couldn't be traced back to their account.

However, i'd be amazed if anything came of this as I'm not sure he'd enjoy the humiliation in the local rag and/or gutter press because she deleted some e-mails v's he couldn't keep it in his pants.

PandorasJar

BARGAINHUNTER! wrote: »

I feel exactly the same way. But if he does go to police has she commited a crime?

She shouldn't have done it... but hotmail T&C's say you can't let anyone else know your password. To have 'guessed' it, she must've been told it for that account or another at some point, so he's voided his contract with them anyway.

As to her line being connected to the emails, that would never hold up!!! If they were going out, then she says he used the computer at hers. The police will laugh at this if he goes to them. If you had sent emails from the address that's a different matter, but to have just deleted, they won't be interested.

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Fonz_2

PandorasJar wrote: »

She shouldn't have done it... but hotmail T&C's say you can't let anyone else know your password. To have 'guessed' it, she must've been told it for that account or another at some point, so he's voided his contract with them anyway.

As to her line being connected to the emails, that would never hold up!!! If they were going out, then she says he used the computer at hers. The police will laugh at this if he goes to them. If you had sent emails from the address that's a different matter, but to have just deleted, they won't be interested.

P

Sorry, this is completely incorrect - what if 20 people confirm he's somewhere else at the time?

The police and the CPS don't give a damn about what he's done - thats personal business.

What they will, without question, care about is an allegation that someone has gained access to, and modified a computer system without authorisation.

That's the key bit under the computer misuse act - the authorisation.

PandorasJar

spendaholic wrote: »

A lot of people mistakenly believe that they can't get done for stuff online that they would be done for in real time/life. That may have been the case when the internet first arrived, but there is more protection in place these days.

There's a large difference between internet stalking/scamming/harassment etc and deleting a couple of mails, which incidentally he is at fault in too. Had it been hacked then yes they would've been possible repercussions, but to 'guess' a password, nah. That's the equivalent of tearing up a note that's sat in your house, but owned by someone else. If he goes to them he should be charged with wasting time. They should both learn from it and he should get a better password!

I've been to the police in the past for internet harassment with threats etc and the guys details, they laughed and said they couldn't do anything 'til he physically attacked me. If they turn their nose up at very realistic threats, then a couple of deleted mails isn't going to be checked out.

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PandorasJar

Fonz wrote: »

Sorry, this is completely incorrect - what if 20 people confirm he's somewhere else at the time?

The police and the CPS don't give a damn about what he's done - thats personal business.

What they will, without question, care about is an allegation that someone has gained access to, and modified a computer system without authorisation.

That's the key bit under the computer misuse act - the authorisation.

And 20 people won't confirm that she was out with them?

The account was not hacked into, he has broken their T&Cs anyway.

You find me a real cop that will give a crap about some deleted mail! They have much better things to waste their time on.

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Fonz_2

That's very different - there's no firm law or guidance which governs how people interact or percieve others interactions on the internet.

There is a very clear law on this - if you access a computer account or system owned by someone else without their authorisation, even if they had actually given you the password at some time in the past, and then go on to modify that system, you have breached the computer misuse act and that very simply is a crime.

The police service is all about detection rates. 1 clear reported crime is an easy detection for them, particularly given all the evidence is there and in this thread. It's a quick win.