Baby Milk Price Hike!

MrsTinks

jillie1974 wrote: »

my asda still has aptamil at £7.89

Hmmmm might have to see if I can arrange to change office for a day next week... I don't live near an Asda but I could drive past one...

MrsTinks

xmaslolly76 wrote: »

Good god reading that lot anyone would think i hate my kids!!

:rotfl: Ok ok you can be in our club too

JBD

Mrs Tine, as far as I am concerned we don't have to justify our choices anyway. It has actually been quite refreshing to read this thread and to read other mothers say they have never felt guilty about bottle feeding. I have never felt one moments guilt and have never felt the need to justify myself either. As far as I am concerned it is my babies, my breasts ,my business. In the same way I would never try to persuade anyone not to breastfeed, as far as I am concerned women can breastfeed whenever and wherever they like, good luck to them.

SugarSpun

MrsTine wrote: »

You cannot ever ever ever understand my exact circumstances - you may have felt you were in the same place, had the same/worse problems... but obviously you didn't... because it didn't effect YOU enough to make you give up BFing... DYSWIM?

As for the birth thing... I had an epidural too, I was screaming out for it for an hour before I got it, I was shaking in pain with every contraction... I think they're wonderful! But that was for me - it was the right thing for me! And you know? I wouldn't have another either... as discussed with my husband I will only have another child if I can have an elective C-section. Why? Because I really don't want another forcepts delivery that will cause as much problems down there for me again that I now will probably need corrective surgery... Natural? Sure - if it's the right thing for you - it's not for everyone.

I totally agree with you. Molly has never done the wolverine rip off the nipple trick, although she has been known to bite down hard when she's feeling cranky or mischievous.

It doesn't matter whether I got through something that made another mummy decide to switch to formula - because I'm not that mummy and so it wasn't the same for us both. I don't want to judge other mummies for their choices because I don't know how it feels to get to the end of your tether and say that enough's enough. I admire those mummies for having done what's best for them in the face of the judgement and opposition TBH (although there's a mummy I know who formula fed from the beginning purely because she didn't want to give up weekly clubbing trips and I confess to secretly judging her a little bit).

I agree with you on the epidural too. I waited three hours once I decided I needed it because it was too soon and dadadadadadadadadadada. But when I got it it was AWESOME and I would have leaped on the man who did it if I hadn't been so enormous and so anaesthetised in the legs. You can have one for a C-section though, and stay awake during the birth. If I hadn't had the epidural they'd have had to knock me out, and I'm so relieved that didn't happen.

Oh, and Molly gets Calpol when she needs it, and we've been known to rub whisky on her gums for teething pain because teething gel contains 10% lidocaine and that has more contraindications than the 2-3mg of alcohol she gets from the whisky.

MrsTinks

SS I'm not saying you were judging me/us btw just that the way you put it was very succinct and helped me explain things a bit better from my perspective
I would also prefer to be awake during a CS - but we wouldn't even consider another for another few years and then we'd only start trying for one if we had the assurance of the medical staff that they would guarantee me a CS before we went ahead at all
In my case it was a woman who did the epidural - the delay wasn't her fault, it was a hospital stretched to the limit (they had to take my MW off duty on another ward to look after me!) and there being no free rooms on the delivery ward. Not the hospitals fault - it's a large hospital and all the rooms were full, none were closed off etc - there was just an influx of women that day

DevilsAdvocate1

xmaslolly76 wrote: »

Thats not strictly true although i agree as with most things you need to buy for a baby the companies just see pound signs as its not something you can go without they hike the price up knowing you have to buy it ( so i heard the formula companies refer to baby milk as liquid gold due to high profit margins). You were able to get cheaper baby formula from the clinics until the government put the new rules in place. It didnt save an enourmous amount probably about £1 a tin/box but its still a saving most new moms would apprieciate

Yes, but that was because the government was subsidising it when it was sold cheaply through the clinic. The formula companies still got the amount they wanted for the box. And I personally don't agree that the government should subsidise someone's lifestyle choice (and not just with regards to feeding babies).

Forumla is a commercially sensitive recipe - the companies themselves don't want the information on their ingredients widely known. They don't want their competitors to know what they use. The government doesn't allow advertising, but it doesn't stop the companies from setting their own prices or giving health professionals information on their formula.

D.

jillie1974

for those who say FF is all about convenience....

http://www.aptamil.co.uk/common/milupa/assets/pdf/APT035_prepare_bottlefeed_0414092009171043.pdf

* try telling a crying baby who is hungry that they have got to wait approx 35mins before they can have a feed.....

MrsTinks

SugarSpun wrote: »

although there's a mummy I know who formula fed from the beginning purely because she didn't want to give up weekly clubbing trips and I confess to secretly judging her a little bit

I'm with you on that one! I wonder though if the few bad apples (who frankly sound like uncaring mums wanting to go clubbing leaving a baby at home!) is what is causing some of the prejudice against the rest of us?

As I said - I've heard of (never actually met though) mums who never tried BFing because it woudl give them saggy boobs or they thought it was gross... that I will be honest and say I struggle to understand. Not wanting to and not being able to BF are 2 seperate things

JBD

MrsTine wrote: »

I'm with you on that one! I wonder though if the few bad apples (who frankly sound like uncaring mums wanting to go clubbing leaving a baby at home!) is what is causing some of the prejudice against the rest of us?

As I said - I've heard of (never actually met though) mums who never tried BFing because it woudl give them saggy boobs or they thought it was gross... that I will be honest and say I struggle to understand. Not wanting to and not being able to BF are 2 seperate things

Why is a Mum uncaring because she wants to go out clubbing? As long as the baby is left with a suitable and safe babysitter [or possibly the other parent] then why does it matter? Life does not have to completely revolve around feeding a baby. A nd why do you struggle to understand why a woman would choose to bottlefeed?. If formula feed is adequate for one baby it is adequate for the next one. Why it is being fed in this way doesn't really make any difference. If a woman hates the thoughts of breastfeeding then she probably isn't going to succeed even if she does try it because she isn't going to have any real motivation.

peachyprice

MrsTine wrote: »

I would also prefer to be awake during a CS - but we wouldn't even consider another for another few years and then we'd only start trying for one if we had the assurance of the medical staff that they would guarantee me a CS before we went ahead at all

Butting in on this Mrs T, I had a terrible first birth and nearly lost both my twins, mainly due to poor staffing, ending in an emergency c-section.

As soon as I was pg with my DD I insisted I wasn't risking that happening again and requested an elective section, and I have to say it was the most fantastic experience ever, being in control of the situation made such a difference. I hope they do listen to you if you decide to go for it again, natural childbirth, pah, overated