Indicators... Why not?

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mikey72 wrote: »

How can you be uncertain if you know you have seen, and know absolutely everthing around you?

Because when moving with a flow of traffic, for instance, on a motorway, one cannot always afford to be looking over one's shoulder or in one's mirror, to check that the following vehicle on your nearside or offside isn't about to enter the space into which you wish to move.

Of course some people just indicate and move out anyway, thinking that a yellow flashing light is some kind of invulnerability device.

tomstickland

I think it's just a by-product of the lack of attention a lot of people put into driving. They leave a trail of frustration and anger behind them, but they're happy, drifting along thinking about other things.

I wouldn't say it was vehicle specific; it seems to cover all vehicle types and ages.

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Benthosboy wrote: »

And that's definitely the biggest load of b******s that I've ever read!!

Still, what do I know with a past average mileage of 100,000 a year in an artic' HGV, probably towed my caravan the same distance, had a clean licence since 1982 and never been involved in an accident .

"Inactive"? Probably from the neck up

Oh dear the expert HGV Driver, I too have driven artic's, towed caravans, ridden motor cycles have held a clean licence , without any accidents whatsoever for far longer than you.


Perhaps you may extend the benefit of your comments and explain exactly what is b******s out my statement.

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tomstickland wrote: »

I think it's just a by-product of the lack of attention a lot of people put into driving. They leave a trail of frustration and anger behind them, but they're happy, drifting along thinking about other things.

Sums thing up nicely..

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dehaani wrote: »

I, for one, feel that I am a very observant driver and I know when it's appropriate not to indicate but I'll readily admit that I sometimes indicate even when I'm sure nobody will benefit from it. I suppose it's just force of habit. I don't accept for a second that it suggests I'm on autopilot or unaware of my surroundings.

Of course you are on " auto pilot " otherwise you would not give a useless signal.

mustrum_ridcully

dehaani wrote: »

I did a DriveTech course a few months ago, during the assessment I indicated on an empty road to turn left into an empty junction. The instructor told me I shouldn't have indicated because it demonstrated to him that I was unaware of the traffic conditions. I told him that I indicated for the benefit of a pedestrian who was waiting to cross the road in front of me. He wasn't happy at all but didn't say anything else about it.

So what problems could it cause?

What total and utter !!!!!! that gave you that advice especially as you seemed to be using common sense :mad:

I'm a car driver and pedestrian and car drivers that don't indicate are a pet hate of mine.

When I walk (or drive for that matter) to work I have to deal with a crossroads and the number of drivers who don't indicate when turning left or right is shocking. Are these people so lazy that they can't use an indicator stalk or so daft that they don't realise no indicators at a crossroads means you're going straight-on?

On another occasion on a motorway I'm in lane one, wanting to overtake, check mirrors/blindspot, indicate, quick double check of lane two/three, start to pull out, BMW driving idiot in lane three decides to pull into lane two without indicating, thankfully I could safely abandon my manoeuvre.

I'd put money on failing to indicate or not indicating properly being a bigger cause of accidents than speeding.

Oh and cyclists are by far the worst group of road users when it comes to indicating/giving hand signals, yes even worse than BMW drivers :eek:

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mustrum_ridcully wrote: »

When I walk (or drive for that matter) to work I have to deal with a crossroads and the number of drivers who don't indicate when turning left or right is shocking. Are these people so lazy that they can't use an indicator stalk or so daft that they don't realise no indicators at a crossroads means you're going straight-on?

All an indicator tells another road user is that a light is flashing. If you're the sort of person who makes decisions based upon a flashing light, then sooner or later you're going to end up in hospital.

mustrum_ridcully wrote: »

Oh and cyclists are by far the worst group of road users when it comes to indicating/giving hand signals, yes even worse than BMW drivers

Really, you want to try braking with one hand and signalling with the other, while negotiating your way through other traffic. Or maybe you haven't been on a bicycle since you were 12 and pottering around on your Raleigh Boxer.

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mustrum_ridcully wrote: »

Oh and cyclists are by far the worst group of road users when it comes to indicating/giving hand signals, yes even worse than BMW drivers :eek:

I think that you mean arm signals, I can find no reference to " hand " signals in my Highway Code.

You do have a copy of the Highway Code?

Paradigm

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Because when moving with a flow of traffic, for instance, on a motorway, one cannot always afford to be looking over one's shoulder or in one's mirror, to check that the following vehicle on your nearside or offside isn't about to enter the space into which you wish to move.

You've lost me here.
Checking all 3 mirrors takes less than a second, if you can't afford that amount of time to check what's going on around you then you are either driving too close or too fast.

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Less than a second to check three mirrors? I suggest it is you, not me, that is driving carelessly, especially as you make no mention of shoulder checks.