Indicators... Why not?

Kilty_2

scotsman4th wrote: »

Thanks but not looking for a probably. if the indicators arnt working would a hand signal not suffice?
What about cars that dont require indicators?

A hand signal would suffice but given the way you asked your question, the police pulling over a car manufactured post whenever indicstors were required would look to prosecute a driver driving an unroadworthy car.

Rolandtheroadie

Kilty wrote: »

A hand signal would suffice but given the way you asked your question, the police pulling over a car manufactured post whenever indicstors were required would look to prosecute a driver driving an unroadworthy car.

Would you not get so long to fix the fault?

Kilty_2

scotsman4th wrote: »

Would you not get so long to fix the fault?

Possibly - depends how much of an !!! the policeman is.

If you caused an accident as a result of it then obviously not.

jackieb

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Excuse me but you've just contradicted yourself. Doing things out of habit is by definition unthinking behaviour.

And if you're into the habit of doing it surely you will look in your mirror before you signal?

It's getting very petty. I'm a good driver. I've driven for 23 years. I've always had a clean licence. I know i'm not complacent just because I indicate. I'm too scared for myself to be complacent!

dehaani

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Excuse me but you've just contradicted yourself. Doing things out of habit is by definition unthinking behaviour.

Not always.

If I'm driving and I have a conscious thought in my head about not needing to indicate, but I indicate anyway then it might mean there's simply a bit of a disconnect between the thought and action.

Call it a lapse, but not a completely mindless action as has been suggested by other posters. Don't get me wrong, I know there are people who would indicate without prior thought or assessment of the traffic but I'm just saying that's not always the case.

Rolandtheroadie

Kilty wrote: »

Possibly - depends how much of an !!! the policeman is.

If you caused an accident as a result of it then obviously not.

An indicator cant be taken as intention so how can it cause an accident?

mikey72

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

I'm not a complacent driver, and yes, I have seen absolutely everything around me. It isn't at all difficult. Its called observation, and isn't a difficult skill to learn. If I'm uncertain, I don't blithely use my indicator and move anyway—I simply hold my position, and wait until I'm certain.

Have you read Roadcraft?

How can you be uncertain if you know you have seen, and know absolutely everthing around you?

Kilty_2

scotsman4th wrote: »

An indicator cant be taken as intention so how can it cause an accident?

I'm sure it could in some way although can't be arsed giving examples. Plus the indicator circuits in a lot of cars are linked to other lighting such as brake / headlights - which could also cause accidents.

Your argument that driving an unroadworthy car will not result in prosecution is inherently flawed.

Rolandtheroadie

Kilty wrote: »

I'm sure it could in some way although can't be arsed giving examples. Plus the indicator circuits in a lot of cars are linked to other lighting such as brake / headlights - which could also cause accidents.

Your argument that driving an unroadworthy car will not result in prosecution is inherently flawed.

I am questioning the fact that a defective indicator is a 3 pointer. I have tried to search but cannot find a definative answer. Theres 2 people on this forum say it is. I hoped for proof. Not examples.

jackieb

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/powers/road-traffic/

What’s a vehicle defect rectification notice?

If your vehicle is defective, for example, one of its indicators is broken, you may be issued with a vehicle defect rectification notice. This means you have to fix the fault and provide proof, such as a receipt from a mechanic saying the fault has been fixed, at a police station

My son's bulb had gone and he had to go to a garage after he'd changed the bulb. He had to pay the garage a fiver so they could acknowledge it was fixed, and then took the stamped certificate they provided to the police station. No points.