MSE Parents Club Part 9

Millie's_Mum

Aless Hv probably meant that theres not a lot of point taking them until they are about 6wks because until then they do an awful lot of sleeping so most people prefer to stay at home and get things done rather than sitting in a draughty church hall somewhere while they sleep. However you go for it if you want to theres no reason why not.

I really agreed with Fitzio about HVs, but also weezl made some good points about hidden agendas i think because their role is undefined and a bit 'woolly' and because some of them act like powercrazed battleaxes people are a bit defensive about why they need to visit/be seen (I was).

That said, if I was a HV and someone was dead aganst me with no reason I would want to see them and their child for my own piece of mind.

I will never forget those children who starved to death in their own house in Birmingham, many agencies got it completely wrong in that case one of the things being that their mother never let them be seen by a HV and the HV didn't push it.

Krystaltips

csh wrote: »

Which one did you get??? Mine is noisy! Akin to a jack hammer lol

I got this one when it was £197 1ith a 10% discount and quidco it bought it down to just over £180

Mazcabs wrote: »

Krystal, I am expressing about 7ozs at a time but still seem to fill up again quick and end up leaking....how long before this settles down and I only produce what I need? should I express less ? Hope this makes sense....

Are you still feeding him yourself or just feeding him expressed milk now? I think Elle or Feely would be best to advise you if you're exclusively expressing. If you're just expressing for comfort and feeding him yourself then cutting down on the expressing might help, but it's more a time thing... Your body just needs to settle down a bit and it's only been a short time since he was born (happy 1 month birthday ) Like Sami, we're over 7 months and I still need a breastpad on occasion...

Millie's_Mum

Sami_Bee wrote: »

M & E's mum I was wondering before if it's cheaper to be out and about in other warm buildings or a home with the heating on.. I bet Weezl knows

Definitely warmer than my freezing house, it was built in 1876 and I think big draughty holes were a design feature then! Trying to sew some shorts for Eloise (cut down old joggers and jeans) but my fingers are too cold!

Fitzio

On health visitors (again), I know that not everyone has good experiences, but I do believe that 99% of them do things for the right reasons. And I don't think they are looking for fault in people either - it would make their lives much simpler if no-one had any problems I am sure! Some people don't like to ask for help though - I find that I have some minor concerns/questions about H, I wouldn't think it was worth bothering a doctor about, or going to see a HV. But if the HV asks if I have any questions, then I would mention it. Also, PND - you might not recognise you are suffering from it or there are aspects of life that you aren't coping with, but they are trained to spot the signs I imagine.

Anyway, I am obviously just in an opinionated mood today. In my work I deal with child protection and criminals, and I am shocked by what some people are capable of. Therefore I am happy to put up with a bit of interference in my life when I have nothing to hide. Some children are not as lucky as mine.

It's not a criticism of anyone so I hope no-one thinks I am having a dig - everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am just quite open about things, but that's my personality.

Fitzio (feeling bold!)

weezl74

Sami_Bee wrote: »

M & E's mum I was wondering before if it's cheaper to be out and about in other warm buildings or a home with the heating on.. I bet Weezl knows

our heating is 60p an hour if on constant... We have a half hour every 3 hours

It's tricky to work it out for other people cos I don't know your gas tariff or boiler efficiency but can't be loads different

HTH xxx

weezl74

Fitzio wrote: »

Anyway, I am obviously just in an opinionated mood today. In my work I deal with child protection and criminals, and I am shocked by what some people are capable of. Therefore I am happy to put up with a bit of interference in my life when I have nothing to hide. Some children are not as lucky as mine.

It's not a criticism of anyone so I hope no-one thinks I am having a dig - everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am just quite open about things, but that's my personality.

Fitzio (feeling bold!)

we like you bold fitz! I don't think our thread would be nearly so interesting or helpful if we all pretended to have the same opinions, and I really like the diversity

Fitzio

Hello and hugs to WM! Hope Alex settles down for you soon. It's hard enough leaving him without extra stress.

My dyson has whined since day one. It does a good job, but I usually try and get DH to do it as it really goes for my ears! Any excuse ha ha.

Happy 1 month birthday to William!

Aless - hope everything is ok with you.

Jillie - Get on the Wii Fit. This is your kick up the backside. <BIG KICK>

I am fed up of trying to dry Holly or change her clothes. She has been dribbling badly for a few weeks now, but this week she is blowing the saliva out with a "doof" noise. The bubbles are getting bigger!

angela6834

My_Fathers_Daughter wrote: »

Is that because you haven't plugged it in yet?

My bad...where has that come from??? Are you down with the kids???

:rotfl:I was just about to say, I keep telling off my eldest DD for saying that....I sound so old telling her to talk properly:cool:

Ladybird, Good luck for your interview x

tarajayne

Happy Birthday Christopher, XXX.
:T:T

Maddy ia half a year old today!:cool:

My_Fathers_Daughter

Millie's_Mum wrote: »

I really agreed with Fitzio about HVs, but also weezl made some good points about hidden agendas i think because their role is undefined and a bit 'woolly' and because some of them act like powercrazed battleaxes people are a bit defensive about why they need to visit/be seen (I was).

That said, if I was a HV and someone was dead aganst me with no reason I would want to see them and their child for my own piece of mind.

I will never forget those children who starved to death in their own house in Birmingham, many agencies got it completely wrong in that case one of the things being that their mother never let them be seen by a HV and the HV didn't push it.

I was thinking something similar but didn't know how to express it. I looked up this:

Job description

A health visitor is a qualified and registered nurse or midwife who is specially trained to assess the health needs of individuals, families and the wider community. They aim to promote good health and prevent illness in the community by offering practical help and advice.
The role involves visiting people in their homes, in particular new parents and children under five, as well as working with other sections of the community. Working as a health visitor may also include tackling the impact of social inequality on health, and working closely with at-risk or deprived groups.
Typical work activities

Activities vary according to the nature of the individual role, but may include:

• listening to, advising and supporting people from all backgrounds and age groups;
• advising and informing new parents on issues such as feeding, safety, physical and emotional development, weaning and immunisation;
• delivering child health programmes;
• running parenting groups;
• working in partnership with families to develop and agree tailored health plans addressing individual parenting and health needs;
• managing and attending parent and baby clinics/sessions at surgeries, community and children's centres, and holding specialist clinics on areas such as baby massage, exercise and child development;
• identifying the health needs of neighbourhoods and other groups in the community, such as the homeless;
• working with local communities to help them identify and tackle their own health needs, and encouraging members of deprived communities to participate in their own health care planning;
• running groups dealing with a specific health aspect, such as giving up smoking, and supporting self-help or special needs groups, such as working parents;
• offering counselling to people on issues such as post-natal depression and bereavement;
• diagnosing minor conditions and prescribing low-level medication;
• supporting and training new health visitors;
• maintaining and updating patient records;
• supporting government initiatives to tackle child poverty and social exclusion, such as Sure Start and Home Start ;
• monitoring data to ensure that specific health targets are being met;
• planning and setting up health promotion displays;
• agreeing local health action plans and managing and leading interdisciplinary teams involved in their delivery;
• working in collaboration with other agencies, such as social services, local housing departments, the police, teachers and probation officers;
• participating in strategic-level and developmental meetings.

And then I was thinking about cases where kids have been left home alone or abused and wondered if a lack of HV support contributed to those, not directly obviously, but as an 'in' to social services and making sure that kids who are at risk are identified somehow (before they get to school age).

...but then again it crossed my mind that those families would not be welcoming to HV support anyway...

My HV has been useful to me on occasion and if nothing else served as some 'professional assistance' in co-ordinating and keeping abreast of Benjamins many appointments and tests when he was a baby (and still ongoing).

Maybe Sami is right - maybe it is down to the quality of the HV support?