Anyone used Rointe heaters?

Cardew

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

rp1974

Suppose if you've been unwise,or unwary enough to have been swayed by the advertising of these and similar heaters at considerable expense you need to justify it to yourself somehow...

Depending on your viewpoint fanciful or borderline fraudulent advertising is allowed for things such as these Rointe,or Fischer or similar not surprisingly some fall for it.

I shudder a little for example every time I read the following,which appears with alarming regularity,I pulled out perfectly functional Night Storage Heaters because there big and ugly and replaced them with snazzy electric radiators now my house is freezing and I can't afford my bills.

Cristos

Cardew said:

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

I know what you mean just my first post but let me explain, also I am interested to know how these compare to gas or other electric heaters as I'm selling the place. I'm not bothered if I find they are not so good. I actually got the heaters recommended by an electrician friend who had installed a few. He got them for me at trade price and fitted them for free so I only paid £1000 for three which is cheap compared to the list price. The reason I saw this site was because after I had them installed I was trying to figure out exactly how efficient they were compared to say gas heating because of selling the property and wanted to have something to say when people were put off by no gas. I've been impressed and compared to the same wattage in fan heaters which honestly didnt heat the place well we have a place now which feels just like going in  a gas heated house. But anyway I'm happy to give info and stuff if anybody can help me figure out how they compare to a gas cost. Im paying about £3.50 a day for electricity at the moment for everything. I have a smart meter. Those ronte are on from timer from 6-10am 4-8pm both bedroom ones and 4-10pm living room. Temp is at 18.5 c and temp measures that around the flat.

Robin9

In the right building these may the right solution - the problems seem to arise when people replace "old" storage rads.
Describe your flat us please - size, construction, age ..........

Gerry1

Cristos said:

Cardew said:

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

I was trying to figure out exactly how efficient they were compared to say gas heating because of selling the property and wanted to have something to say when people were put off by no gas. I've been impressed and compared to the same wattage in fan heaters which honestly didnt heat the place well we have a place now which feels just like going in  a gas heated house. But anyway I'm happy to give info and stuff if anybody can help me figure out how they compare to a gas cost.

Electric heaters are 100% efficient (kWh of heat out compared to kWh of heat in), gas wet CH perhaps 90%.  But that completely misses the point because day rate electricity kWhs cost about FIVE times as much as gas kWhs.  Just look at your tariffs, probably around 15p versus a whisker under 3p?

Whether it's a fan heater, oil filled radiator or magic dust radiator you'll still get exactly the same heat output.

If you have no gas and oil and LPG etc aren't options then you're left with heat pumps, storage heaters and plug in heaters.

Heat pumps cost a fortune to install and are slow and unresponsive.  They're probably the cheapest electric heating to run if you're always at home, but otherwise probably a dead loss as a retrofit.

NSHs are a bit more expensive to run and, although you still get 1kWh of heat for 1kWh of electricity, the modern fan assisted ones are more efficient than old ones in the sense that you're not wasting so many kWhs overnight when they're not needed.

Sadly you have chosen the worst possible option because your magic dust radiators were expensive to buy and will always require electricity at highly expensive daytime rates.  That's why purchasers will quite rightly run a mile if they use due diligence.  There's nothing you can do unless you deceive them.

Cardew

Cristos said:

Cardew said:

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

I know what you mean just my first post but let me explain, also I am interested to know how these compare to gas or other electric heaters as I'm selling the place. I'm not bothered if I find they are not so good. I actually got the heaters recommended by an electrician friend who had installed a few. He got them for me at trade price and fitted them for free so I only paid £1000 for three which is cheap compared to the list price. The reason I saw this site was because after I had them installed I was trying to figure out exactly how efficient they were compared to say gas heating because of selling the property and wanted to have something to say when people were put off by no gas. I've been impressed and compared to the same wattage in fan heaters which honestly didnt heat the place well we have a place now which feels just like going in  a gas heated house. But anyway I'm happy to give info and stuff if anybody can help me figure out how they compare to a gas cost. Im paying about £3.50 a day for electricity at the moment for everything. I have a smart meter. Those ronte are on from timer from 6-10am 4-8pm both bedroom ones and 4-10pm living room. Temp is at 18.5 c and temp measures that around the flat.

Well your first post was quite insulting and made it plain that myself and others didn't know what we were talking about. No matter! the issue is your statement below and claiming that you have proved it is true.

'Previously we had two fan heaters 1 x 2000w and 1 x 1000w. These both running would not actually heat the building and made alot of noise. We had three of the rointe kyros heaters fitted and now have a lovely warm apartment for under half the elctic cost as the fan heaters which didn't even warm the place as well.'

The indisputable fact is that the heat output of those two fan heaters using xx kWh will be EXACTLY the same heat output of the Rointe heaters using the same xx kWh; they both have the same 100% efficiency, as has any other form of electrical heating.

Over the years there have been countless posts from people - mainly pensioners - who have salesmen visit(NOT from Rointe) and convince these poor souls to pay as much as £2,000 each for small electrical heaters that give out no more heat for a given cost than a £10 heater from Argos.

Frankly your initial post, if left unchallenged, would do great damage on a MONEY SAVING website.

 

Cristos

Cardew said:

Cristos said:

Cardew said:

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

I know what you mean just my first post but let me explain, also I am interested to know how these compare to gas or other electric heaters as I'm selling the place. I'm not bothered if I find they are not so good. I actually got the heaters recommended by an electrician friend who had installed a few. He got them for me at trade price and fitted them for free so I only paid £1000 for three which is cheap compared to the list price. The reason I saw this site was because after I had them installed I was trying to figure out exactly how efficient they were compared to say gas heating because of selling the property and wanted to have something to say when people were put off by no gas. I've been impressed and compared to the same wattage in fan heaters which honestly didnt heat the place well we have a place now which feels just like going in  a gas heated house. But anyway I'm happy to give info and stuff if anybody can help me figure out how they compare to a gas cost. Im paying about £3.50 a day for electricity at the moment for everything. I have a smart meter. Those ronte are on from timer from 6-10am 4-8pm both bedroom ones and 4-10pm living room. Temp is at 18.5 c and temp measures that around the flat.

Well your first post was quite insulting and made it plain that myself and others didn't know what we were talking about. No matter! the issue is your statement below and claiming that you have proved it is true.

'Previously we had two fan heaters 1 x 2000w and 1 x 1000w. These both running would not actually heat the building and made alot of noise. We had three of the rointe kyros heaters fitted and now have a lovely warm apartment for under half the elctic cost as the fan heaters which didn't even warm the place as well.'

The indisputable fact is that the heat output of those two fan heaters using xx kWh will be EXACTLY the same heat output of the Rointe heaters using the same xx kWh; they both have the same 100% efficiency, as has any other form of electrical heating.

Over the years there have been countless posts from people - mainly pensioners - who have salesmen visit(NOT from Rointe) and convince these poor souls to pay as much as £2,000 each for small electrical heaters that give out no more heat for a given cost than a £10 heater from Argos.

Frankly your initial post, if left unchallenged, would do great damage on a MONEY SAVING website.

 

This was exactly what caused me to sign up and post here because after having got these heaters and reading this I could see this was misleading. I dont agree that your correct in that statement. Obviously we can't make proper scientific cslculations without the company providing much more info but thermodynamics is much more complicated than just watts to heat when your using the oil and metal to store and radiate the heat. How the heater is controlled by the computer all equates to how efficient it is. No way can you heat a flat this size with 3000 watts in fan heaters. Trust me I tried it. Not to mention how unsightly and noisy they are. Part of what your paying for is the quality of equipment and comfort of Use. These look the part and do the job. Now dont get me wrong I really don't know how the cost racks up in these efficiency claims or if the electricity cost is good or bad. But they do a great job heating the place and look good and are silent. I think you seem to be paranoid about fake company reps trying to advertise the product which to be fair is valid as it must happen. But I am just a person who got them. Was impressed by the product and when looking for info on efficiency felt this thread needed some more input from an actual user.

Cristos

Robin9 said:

In the right building these may the right solution - the problems seem to arise when people replace "old" storage rads.
Describe your flat us please - size, construction, age ..........

Thanks. It's an ex council flat in a block of 4 roughly 12 x 18 meters. Think I overestimated size a bit in my first post. 2nd floor,  Brick walls, 90s double glazing, 10cm loft insulation 2 bedroom and a livingroom/kitchen with a hallway and bathroom. We have 2 x 990w and 1 x 1210w kyros. One is in living room and one in each bedroom.

Gerry1

If you can't heat it with 3kW of fan heaters than you can't heat it with 3kW of magic dust heaters, 3kW of candles, 3kW of electric fires, 3kW of paraffin heaters or 3kW of anything else.  There's absolutely nothing special about 3kW of magic dust heat.

matelodave

Cristos said:

Cardew said:

Reed_Richards said:

Right at the start of this thread there is a post by @shaunmichelle7 who writes in favour of Rointe heates but has only ever made one single post to the forum.  Now right at the end we have two posts in quick succession by @Cristos in favour of Rointe heaters.  These are the only two post that @Cristos has ever made.  I have not read the bit in the middle of the thread; do these fly-by-night supporters crop up often?

They appear all too frequently.

They inevitably have a vested interest in selling the product.

OR

Having bought the product/service, refuse to accept  reality and must defend the purchase.

I speak as someone who bought two Betamax video recorders!

I know what you mean just my first post but let me explain, also I am interested to know how these compare to gas or other electric heaters as I'm selling the place. I'm not bothered if I find they are not so good. I actually got the heaters recommended by an electrician friend who had installed a few. He got them for me at trade price and fitted them for free so I only paid £1000 for three which is cheap compared to the list price. The reason I saw this site was because after I had them installed I was trying to figure out exactly how efficient they were compared to say gas heating because of selling the property and wanted to have something to say when people were put off by no gas. I've been impressed and compared to the same wattage in fan heaters which honestly didnt heat the place well we have a place now which feels just like going in  a gas heated house. But anyway I'm happy to give info and stuff if anybody can help me figure out how they compare to a gas cost. Im paying about £3.50 a day for electricity at the moment for everything. I have a smart meter. Those ronte are on from timer from 6-10am 4-8pm both bedroom ones and 4-10pm living room. Temp is at 18.5 c and temp measures that around the flat.

Even if you paid £1000 for them you were cheated because you would have got the same heat output from a £20 Argos oil filled radiator and you'd be around £940 better off than you are now