Anyone used Rointe heaters?

Cristos

Also how do you know a fan heater is 100% efficient. That sounds like nonsense to me. There will be different components  turning electricity to heat with varying efficiency and loss. The power to turn the motor makes your claim not make sense.

Cristos

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

coffeehound

Cristos said:

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

NO!  ALL ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE 100% EFFICIENT.

ur welcome.

Cristos

coffeehound said:

Cristos said:

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

NO!  ALL ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE 100% EFFICIENT.

ur welcome.

Impossible I'm afraid and clearly total nonsense. Try providing some proper arguments? For example the power to drive the fan. Losses and inefficiency in the components? Losses in transfer of heat through the materials? I don't believe any heater could possibly be 100% efficient its litterally scientifically impossible. The efficiency of watts consumption to watts in heat output will vary dramatically and fan heaters rate amongst the poorest.

matelodave

coffeehound said:

Cristos said:

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

NO!  ALL ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE 100% EFFICIENT.

ur welcome.

There's not a lot of point anymore - I bet he's a member of the flat earth society as well 

Tallerdave

Cristos said:

coffeehound said:

Cristos said:

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

NO!  ALL ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE 100% EFFICIENT.

ur welcome.

Impossible I'm afraid and clearly total nonsense. Try providing some proper arguments? For example the power to drive the fan. Losses and inefficiency in the components? Losses in transfer of heat through the materials? I don't believe any heater could possibly be 100% efficient its litterally scientifically impossible. The efficiency of watts consumption to watts in heat output will vary dramatically and fan heaters rate amongst the poorest.

What materials are there between a hot element and the air in a fan heater?

If you compare a fan heater with an oil radiator of the same wattage and switch each on for an hour, the fan heater delivers its heat almost entirely within the hour. The oil radiator takes time to warm up and cool down, so may take nearly 2 hours to deliver an identical amount of heat to the room. That's why fan heaters are perceived as "less efficient". If you used a fan heater with half the wattage for 2 hours, the heat delivery would be more evenly matched between the two products.

Reed_Richards

Cristos said:

You don't take into account the power to turn the fan motor either which may not be that much but must be taken into account. ...

Please pay attention, @Cristos, I already dealt with fan heaters.  Yes, rotating the fan requires a small amount of electrical energy because you have to counteract the frictional forces that cause the fan to stop when you turn off the power.  But friction generates heat so the motion of the fan does not affect the efficiency of turning electricity into heat, which is 100%.    

Gerry1

Cristos said:

coffeehound said:

Cristos said:

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

NO!  ALL ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE 100% EFFICIENT.

ur welcome.

I don't believe any heater could possibly be 100% efficient its litterally (sic) scientifically impossible. The efficiency of watts consumption to watts in heat output will vary dramatically and fan heaters rate amongst the poorest.

If the electrical energy that was put into the fan heater doesn't all appear as heat out, then where does it go?  It can't just vanish into thin air.

Reed_Richards

Gerry1 said:
If the electrical energy that was put into the fan heater doesn't all appear as heat out, then where does it go?  It can't just vanish into thin air.

It's those pesky laws of thermodynamics again, getting in the way of perpetual motion machines, vanishing electricity and magical heaters.

Cardew

Cristos said:

Also how do you know a fan heater is 100% efficient. That sounds like nonsense to me. There will be different components  turning electricity to heat with varying efficiency and loss. The power to turn the motor makes your claim not make sense.

Probably more likely that the rointe are getting closer to being 100% efficient and that the cheaper tech never got anywhere close to 100% efficiency.

Impossible I'm afraid and clearly total nonsense. Try providing some proper arguments? For example the power to drive the fan. Losses and inefficiency in the components? Losses in transfer of heat through the materials? I don't believe any heater could possibly be 100% efficient its litterally scientifically impossible. The efficiency of watts consumption to watts in heat output will vary dramatically and fan heaters rate amongst the poorest.

The 100% efficiency is nor our 'opinion'! We are simply quoting a gentleman by the name of Albert Einstein. A century ago he famously stated “Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be changed from one form to another.” scientists the world over agree with him; and now along comes Cristos and 'proves' Einstein was wrong!