PS3 - Playstation 3 - Pre order

delmontebanana

A high end PC will easily last 4-5 years

<Debate mode on> Seeing that PC equipment is getting more advanced and quicker to be replaced each day, would you use a Pentium from 2001-2002?Namely: A Pentium2 1.5Ghz with 512MB RAM computer? Let's not even mention a recent game like Elder Scrolls 4 here, just for simple everyday use you will find it to be slow. That was possibly THE top end PC of the time so it's extremely doubtful ANY PC will last 4-5 years.

Let's look at the Nvidia 6800GT HIGH-END Graphics card release in Summer 2004 with a price tag of £250-300. It's been downgraded to a Mid-Range card not even 2 years later and the price drop has dropped to £150, running ES4: Oblivion, it will run at a lesser spec than the Xbox 360.
The PS2 was released in 2000 and 6 years later people are still playing it and the graphics have stayed pretty consistant.

Game patching has become available since the console market has connected to the internet (Xbox Live, PS2 Online) so it is no longer exclusively for PC.

Investment on the long term and short term if you're planning to buy something to play games... then I believe a Console wins hands down.

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Consoles on the other hand DO NOT need to be upgraded

Then why would anyone want to buy a PS3? Surely the PS2 will be perfectly fine for everyone
What I think you mean is that you CAN'T upgrade consoles - Sony and Microsoft want you to throw away your old console and all the games and buy a new better one, that way they can make all the money rather than some PC component manufacturers in Taiwan.

As far as I know, the PS3 is backward compatible so all PS2 games can still be played on it. Of course things need to be ditched and newer things need to be bought, that's unavoidable with luxurys such as game consoles and is 2-6years to replace a game console really that much to ask for?
As far as value-for-money is concerned for the PS3, you are paying for a Blue-Ray Player, a state of the art games console and a PS2 in one. Blue-Ray for those not in the know will be the not-too-distant-future replacement for DVD's.

The other benefit of PCs is that the people making the upgrade components compete against each other, so prices come down much more quickly. If the XBox 360 could be upgraded in lots of little bits, or you could buy it from lots of different manufacturers the price would probably have halved by now.

Aren't Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft competing for market share? Wouldn't that make the prices go down the same way PC components do?

Joints

delmontebanana wrote:

Blue-Ray for those not in the know will be the not-too-distant-future replacement for DVD's.

HD-DVD could still go ahead. Did I mention I hate control pads when playing first person games. Or the lack of mods. Or the possible fact that for a unified multiplayer system subscription is needed. PC has always been ahead in every respect and I wouldn't go back to consoles.

littleange

Why not have both? They both have their pros and cons.

I don't think theres as much choice in PC games as you can get on the PS2 for example, plus a console is more fun if you have friends around.

I got annoyed with the lack of games on the PC that you can play through story mode networked, with my housemates, you have to go back to things like good old Doom

Online gaming on the PC is good thou

Joints

littleange_com wrote:

Why not have both? They both have their pros and cons.

I don't think theres as much choice in PC games as you can get on the PS2 for example, plus a console is more fun if you have friends around.

I got annoyed with the lack of games on the PC that you can play through story mode networked, with my housemates, you have to go back to things like good old Doom

Online gaming on the PC is good thou

ouch! that one really hurt ... nope there's not much choice.... there is excessive choice many times more titles on pc than any console (even emulators) as a rough guide most console releases are pc releases too, then you have extras on top like UT2007, Quake Wars etc these won't be released on any console anytime soon

grex9101

more to the point, did we all go through quidco?!!?!?

littleange

I'd say you also get less problems with a console, its more plug and play.

Mansun fan grex9101?

notagain_3

delmontebanana wrote:

Blue-Ray for those not in the know will be the not-too-distant-future replacement for DVD's.

Just as Sonys Betamax slaughtered VHS.:rotfl:

Joints

notagain wrote:

Just as Sonys Betamax slaughtered VHS.:rotfl:

exactly... problem with sony is they try too hard to become industry standard when in fact people usually go for anything that opposes their proprietary technology. Same thing happened with ATRAC.

royalsteve

Andyblizz wrote:

Sony Playstation 3 Console With 60GB HDD & 3 Games (Formula One 06/Warhawk/Singstar)



http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/CART/3-/1032615/-/Product.html?delete=1032615&P36=3RPNRK



Sony Playstation 3 Console With 60GB HDD & 3 Games (Formula One 06/Warhawk/Singstar)

Due to an expected European shortage of the PS3, we are unable to guarantee delivery of your PS3 before Christmas. All pre-orders will be fulfilled on a first come, first served basis and game titles in this package may be changed, subject to availability.
CPU: Cell Processor
GPU: RSX
Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory: 256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM
HDD: 2.5" Serial ATA (60GB)
I/O: USB 2.0 (x4) - MemoryStick/SD/CompactFlash
Communication: Ethernet (x1 / 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) - IEEE 802.11 b/g - Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Wireless controller (Bluetooth)
AV Output: Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI OUT - (x1 / HDMI NextGen)
AV MULTI OUT (x1)
DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) (x1)
BD/DVD/CD Drive (Read Only): Maximum Read Speed BD 2x (BD-ROM), DVD 8x (DVD-ROM), CD 24x (CD-ROM)
Super Audio CD 2x
Dimensions: Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D)
Weight: Approximately 5 kg
Review

PS3 is the most advanced computer system that serves as a platform to enjoy next generation computer entertainment contents in the home, realized through the combination of Cell and RSX processors, in addition to the playability of a vast catalog of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software titles.
Having Giga-bit Ethernet and a pre-installed hard disk drive (HDD) as standard in PS3, users will be able to download a variety of contents as well as access on-line games and services over the network.
Equipped with basic input/output ports, PS3 supports a broad range of displays from conventional NTSC/PAL standard TVs to the latest full HD (1080i/1080p) flat panel displays, offering the joy of the most advanced computer entertainment contents to homes around the world. For use in living rooms, maximum heat and noise reduction has been achieved with a noise level equivalent to that of the current slim-line PlayStation 2.
With the overwhelming computational power of the Cell processor, PS3 is capable of playing back content from Blu-ray (BD) disc at a bit rate of multiplex 48Mbps with ease, the maximum bit rate defined in BD standards.
The new controller for PS3 has been created by refining and improving the world¿s most popular PlayStation controller which has shipped more than several hundred million units worldwide. The controller for PS3 employs a high-precision, highly sensitive six-axis sensing system that is capable of processing all parameters within the controller itself, thereby eliminating the need for any additional settings on the display system. By applying this technology, it will become possible to freely control the PS3 system over the network.


http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/CART/3-/1032615/-/Product.html?delete=1032615&P36=3RPNRK

what a rip off! more than RRP. ...dont bother as it will be no more than £299 by xmas

princessmoneysaver

My DH was told the console only was £300 or the pack with games etc for £410. If Play are charging more than this then I would think maybe the price will come down a bit before it's released?