Driving ban

sebdangerfield

I wouldn't ever try to say I don't break the speed limit. Just driving back from the inlaw's this evening found me in the mood and on a decent bit of road so I had some fun. At the same time though, I wouldn't complain if an NIP come through the post over the next two weeks. I'd also be far more careful when and where I did it as the points totted up.

The posts I don't understand are the ones that talk about slowing down from 40s to 30s and getting clocked at 37 being unlucky, or the ones that do the opposite by speeding before for the NSL. Surely a good driver knows the signs there and anticipates it in plenty of time, slowing down and speeding up at the correct times are part of being a good driver and it's hardley going to slow anyone down. Equaly, alot of movable cameras and vans are placed in these areas so there's more chance of being caught there.

sebdangerfield

50 in a national speed limit in a lorry isnt a bad thing.

I also agree with this. It's not a bad thing but it is the law, do it four times and he's banned so whats the point?

nearlyrich

goldspanners wrote: »

50 in a national speed limit in a lorry isnt a bad thing. get a grip.

I see the aftermath of bad driving far too often...the law is there for a reason, no doubt you think it's OK to chat on the phone and drive or cross the no overtaking lines too?

pendulum

A good driver is someone who drives at a suitable and safe speed for the conditions at all times, and a safe speed for the road your driving on can be above or below the speed limit which really means very little, it is just a number on a stick which doesn't take into consideration the current road conditions at all.

Sometimes driving at the speed limit is too dangerous and you have to drive slower; sometimes it is safe to exceed it. I really do dislike the simpletons who genuinely think that exceeding the speed limit makes you a bad driver automatically. Very simple minded people if they think it is that black and white.

An observant driver who is driving above the limit but still at a safe speed will see most speed cameras but will have little chance against the hidden cop with the radar gun or an unmarked car; if he gets stopped by one of these then it's unlucky in my book.

Ps It was someone's good observation that the aforementioned simpletons only exist on forums. I don't see them on the roads or in real life, perhaps they don't go out much.

goldspanners

nearlyrich wrote: »

I see the aftermath of bad driving far too often...the law is there for a reason, no doubt you think it's OK to chat on the phone and drive or cross the no overtaking lines too?

ahh i see where your coming from automatically going over the posted limit makes you a bad driver.
i wouldnt like to live in your black and white world, life would be so boring.

how you think you know what i find acceptable is beyond me,but yes if you can take into account everything that has been judged as a risk to not overtake then yes i see no problem with crossing a solid white line.
would you sit behind a line of cyclists rather than just cross the white line even if you can see its going to be clear enough for long enough so you can pass?

and yes chatting on the phone is just the same as having a conversation with a passenger when you havea bluetooth hands free system so i dont see the problem thier either. .

sebdangerfield

pendulum wrote: »

A good driver is someone who drives at a suitable and safe speed for the conditions at all times, and a safe speed for the road your driving on can be above or below the speed limit which really means very little, it is just a number on a stick which doesn't take into consideration the current road conditions at all.

Sometimes driving at the speed limit is too dangerous and you have to drive slower; sometimes it is safe to exceed it. I really do dislike the simpletons who genuinely think that exceeding the speed limit makes you a bad driver automatically. Very simple minded people if they think it is that black and white.

An observant driver who is driving above the limit but still at a safe speed will see most speed cameras but will have little chance against the hidden cop with the radar gun or an unmarked car; if he gets stopped by one of these then it's unlucky in my book.

Ps It was someone's good observation that the aforementioned simpletons only exist on forums. I don't see them on the roads or in real life, perhaps they don't go out much.

I agree with the post in general but still dissagree with the last bit,

but will have little chance against the hidden cop with the radar gun or an unmarked car; if he gets stopped by one of these then it's unlucky in my book.

I think it's more difficult to spot but most us on here spot unmarked Police cars a mile off surely? And when they're behind at night so can't identify the car it's still easy to spot cars gaining on you and react appropriatly.

The officer with a radar gun will normaly be on a longer sraighter stretch of road and so again, advance your obs further along the road, which you should do anyway on that type of road and spot anything parked up. If they can see you, you can see them if you look hard enough.

Inactive

goldspanners wrote: »

your the driver i hate being stuck behind, the pedantic black and white driver.
if you can be so confident about that then you dont drive very far or very often,or you are as ive said super pedantic.

Doesn't bother me GS, I don't have any points on my licence, I don't intend to get any, so as long as I am within the legal limits, tough.

If you want to break the law, that is your problem.

pendulum

sebdangerfield wrote: »

I agree with the post in general but still dissagree with the last bit,

I think it's more difficult to spot but most us on here spot unmarked Police cars a mile off surely? And when they're behind at night so can't identify the car it's still easy to spot cars gaining on you and react appropriatly.

The officer with a radar gun will normaly be on a longer sraighter stretch of road and so again, advance your obs further along the road, which you should do anyway on that type of road and spot anything parked up. If they can see you, you can see them if you look hard enough.

Although I generally agree with what you say, there are exceptions which you haven't considered.

What about the cop who parks his vehicle by the side of a building at night, so that it cannot be seen by oncoming traffic, then crouches down (so his reflective jacket cannot be seen) in the shadows by the side of a hedge? I regularly see a cop do this on the A13 (residential part) and I assure you that by the time he is visible to a motorist, he's already got a speed reading.

We all know to be wary of BMWs, Volvo's and newer Skoda's, and as we are overtaking some on dual carriageways or motorways we can even glance left to see if the driver is in uniform (I used to do this all the time on the A12 and it saved me once), we also can learn to notice unmarked cars that regularly patrol the same roads e.g. the silver BMW that's always on the A130 for example... but what about the cop driving a 12-year-old white banger of a Skoda? I have seen a taxi driver pulled up by a cop driving one of those and thought "Wow, I would NEVER have expected them to be driving that". If I was say driving safely at a few miles over the limit, I wouldn't be particularly wary of an old Skoda keeping up. It doesn't fit the usual profile.

Recently I was driving at around 2am on a Friday night, well over the limit I have to say, at least 20mph over. I noticed another car coming up RAPID behind. At the speed I was going that can only mean one thing and I knew straight away. But by the time you realise and brake it's too late you see! They already know you're speeding. That time actually ended well for me and he let me go with a warning, but not before thoroughly checking me out.

An obsevant driver can spot the vans above the bridges, the vans at the side of the road, the GATSOs and the Truvelo's, the unmarked cars and most of the other things they throw at us, I definitely wouldn't have a license now if I wasn't good at that believe me, but sometimes you just have no chance because they aren't "sporting". They can and do put themselves in a position where they can get a speed reading before you can see them.

NatD1978

sebdangerfield wrote: »

Why do I manage to keep an idea of exactly how fast im going and the limit of the road in my concience?

So, whenever the speed limit on a road is 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 you can stick to that limit to the exact mph?

If you can sir, then I take my hat off to you.

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

No, and if you knew my driving background, that would explain why, but I ain't about to broadcast that.;)

I bet there about 20 under wraps MSE policemen trailing you from now on:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: