Driving ban

Inactive

You seem to have changed your tune, you said earlier that a driver would just be " unlucky " to get 12 points.:rolleyes:

Face facts, anyone that gets 12 points is not fit to be on the road, end of.

Perhaps if one of these idiot drivers kills or maims one of your loved ones then you may well change your slanted thought process.

pendulum

I've not changed my tune at all and won't waste my time trying to see how you came to that conclusion.

Don't tell me to face facts and then claim anyone with 12 points is a danger and unfit to be on the roads because that is not a fact at all, it's just your stupid opinion which you are unfortunately entitled to.

I am in Cambodia at the moment and I see in 2 minutes what you wouldn't see in England in a lifetime, 5 on a bike, or riding a bike with one hand whilst holding a baby in the other, kids riding on top of lorries with insecure loads, people driving towards you, across you, it's a free for all... I drive and survive on these roads... then I get back to England where some halfwit wants to tell me driving 35mph on a 30mph zone on a wide open road with good visibility is dangerous and if I do it four times to get 12 points then I am a menace that's going to kill people and I'm unfit for the roads. Pathetic it really is.

Inactive

Comparing Cambodia to England will not justify your comments.

Try telling the Mother of a child that has been ploughed down by some idiot speeding driver that it is OK to do 35mph in a 30mph zone.

Any driver that is stupid enough to attract 12 points is not fit to drive.

Oh and BTW, throwing out abusive insults will not help your argument, it only speaks volumes about you as a person.:rolleyes:

goldspanners

i kind of agree with pedulum. my dad, a driver of many years and drives a car transporter for a living has never in about 30 years of driving ever had a single point on his licence,then within the space of 3 weeks potentialy had 10 points!

first points were doing 52 on a single national speed limit,his vehicle should have been doing 40,caught via camera van, so he sent off his licence then after a few weeks he got caught again doing similar ( yes,yes, he should have leant his lesson i know) single national speed limit 50 where he should have been 40.
so then he wonders wheres my licence to send it away for this next batch of points if they arrive?
he never received it back from the first set, so he phones the court, they have never received it ( so he could now be facing a court appearance and heavier points and fine) luckily DVLA pull through and get a new licence to him in rapid time and he gets it away to get the points on it,then within a matter of days he goes through a green light,traffic moves very slowly then stops catching him stopping after the red light in a camera zone, the red light camera flashes and catches him apparently jumping a red light ( now the length of a car transporter is hard to judge and this could be classed as very unlucky,as he was only a few yards from relative safety) he hasnt heard from this incident but is worried he may get another set of points for this.

so this could be 4 points for first set as he failed to produce his licence, 3 points for speeding for the next set due to vehicle classification and then a further 3 points for apparently jumping a red light.
so there we go, a professional driver who has been driving for 30 years and then almost looses his licence in a matter of days.

so far he hasnt heard from incident 2 or 3 so he might just be very lucky. but it is an unfortunate set of circumstances.

pendulum

Inactive wrote: »

Try telling the Mother of a child that has been ploughed down blah blah

Oh won't someone pleeease "think of the children" :rolleyes:. The point you miss is that having 12 points doesn't automatically make someone a danger to children or anyone else, and it's stupid of you to assume it does. Number of points is a very poor indicator of driving skill.

Inactive wrote: »

Any driver that is stupid enough to attract 12 points is not fit to drive.

Total BS for reasons already explained. Repeating yourself doesn't make it true.

pendulum

goldspanners wrote: »

so there we go, a professional driver who has been driving for 30 years and then almost looses his licence in a matter of days.

...but it is an unfortunate set of circumstances.

Absolutely, and a perfect example of how even a professional driver could accumulate points whilst being a perfectly good and safe driver and end up losing their license and livilihood. It happens all the time.

Tony69

pendulum wrote: »

Absolutely, and a perfect example of how even a professional driver could accumulate points whilst being a perfectly good and safe driver and end up losing their license and livilihood. It happens all the time.

mmm does it really?

pendulum

Yes, millions of people have active points on their licenses and thousands of working people lose their licenses each year under totting up, got any more questions?

Tony69

pendulum wrote: »

Yes, millions of people have active points on their licenses and thousands of working people lose their licenses each year under totting up, got any more questions?

Yes what you have said here is very very true and no-one can disagree with that....but does it happen all the time that a professional driver could accumulate points whilst being a good and safe driver,end up losing their license and livelihood?

Happychappy

pendulum wrote: »

Absolutely, and a perfect example of how even a professional driver could accumulate points whilst being a perfectly good and safe driver and end up losing their license and livilihood. It happens all the time.

A professional driver who either doesnt know the speed limit for the vehicle he is driving, or just ignoring it by 12mph and 10mph, doesnt make him a perfectly good and safe driver ? so not really a perfect example, just an unlucky truckie who gets away with it most days but fell foul of a camera monitoring LGV speeds, whereas as most cameras only register speeds above national speed limits or posted speed limits, few register the fact that different classes of vehicles have different speed limits which any "professional" driver should know.