Opinions plz before i phone uni....security guard at uni walking into DD room !

worriedsik

MrsTine wrote: »

Firstly I'd say stop doing your daughters complaining for her - she's 18 and at 18 I knew darned well how to complain without anyone doing it for me... Unless you let her take the oppertunerty that Uni is of learning life skills like standing up for herself then how will she manage in future? Give her advice by all means but stop doing everything for her.

As for my view on the "incident"... it was 10 am... I think it's fair to expect that most normal people, EVEN students might be out of their pits by then... I'm also reasonably sure that the general way of running the halls would have been explained to the students - as for leaving the cables, they'd go missing in communal areas, some might "forget" to collect them from security and remember at a stupid time of day and try and collect one at 2am... I am guessing this is a system they have found works for them - it's guaranteed to get to all students because they get placed/chucked in each room and no-one gets more or less than anyone else. As for the Security guard only knocking quick and entering - fine, only your daughter will know how long it was between knocking and entering - assuming she wasn't hung over or slept through the initial knock then it's up to HER and not you to complain.

Personally my advice would be for her to ask if they could next time knock and wait at least 10 seconds before entering, after all she might have come straight out the shower and she wouldn't want to embaress who-ever might be coming in... If she says it with a smile and a please and thank you she is far more likely to actually get somewhere with her request than if her mum phones up because her daughter felt uncomfortable about it...

if you read through the thread you will see that i have takin good advice and iam not going to do the complaining for her actually
thats great that you knew how to complain ( thats you though not everybody is as good at complaining at 18 )

most normal people !!!! mmm well i can asure you my daughter is pretty normal and been brought up too respect others
i dont have to justify why she was in 'her' room at 10am but i will because you seem to think she should have been out her ''pitt''
she worked hard the evening before and surly its her room she pays for it so when she isnt at a lecture she can stay in her ''pitt'' if she wants to without the fear off a stranger coming in ie a man

And dont presume that because my daughter is a student that she would have been hungover
yes i already said that iam going to speak to her tomorow to complain herself so no point on keep on going over that one

she shall find out tomorow and it will be very interesting to know if this is the practise where a security man can walk in to a students room uninvited

whitewing

This is an article about police obtaining entry without the individual student's permission:

http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/04/03/breaking-news-police-search-of-student-accomodation-unacceptable-as-claudia-investigation-moves-to-campus/

It does indicate that access to the student's room is defined in her contract so it may well be worth your DD checking what that says in her instance. Seems most common for regular access by cleaners. Maybe the sec guard is not acting within the rules of this particular Uni.

worriedsik

minimoneysaver wrote: »

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I don't think it is right that the male security guard was going into rooms. To be honest, I think he was opening himself up to complaints/possible issues by doing so.
It's actions like that, that can make people feel unsafe in their teritory. The girl who is being talked about is only 18. It is probably her first time away from home. She needs to feel like she is safe and secure in her new place. As a parent... no matter how old/young my daughter is, I would do anything to make sure that she feels safe.

Thank you thats exactly how i feel and thank you for the link too thats very helpfull

worriedsik

whitewing wrote: »

This is an article about police obtaining entry without the individual student's permission:

http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/04/03/breaking-news-police-search-of-student-accomodation-unacceptable-as-claudia-investigation-moves-to-campus/

It does indicate that access to the student's room is defined in her contract so it may well be worth your DD checking what that says in her instance. Seems most common for regular access by cleaners. Maybe the sec guard is not acting within the rules of this particular Uni.

Thanks for that link i had a read at that

breaching “basic human rights to privacy.”

worriedsik

dizzybuff wrote: »

Answer is leave her key ikn the door or , lock it ... easy although this is not ideal if there is an emergancy .. id have waggles my bits at the bloke told him to have a good look coz once im dressed hed have no eyes.. but thats just me

lol:rotfl:

durham_girl

I've been a cleaner at a college which is part of a major University and spoke to cleaners from other colleges. In my experience there are no set times for cleaning. We say a certain day of the week between 9am and 1pm, but even so this is subject to change.

We all had a master key which we signed out in the moring and returned before going home that allowed us access every room on the floor we were working. The procedure to use is knock, wait then if no answer, let ourselves in. All she had to do was say, 'no' or 'hang on' and he wouldn't have come in. How was he to know she was still in bed?

Also I highly doubt it was a member of the security staff. They have better things to do than hand out cables to students! Most likely it was a male cleaner (yes there are male cleaners!).

worriedsik

durham_girl wrote: »

I've been a cleaner at a college which is part of a major University and spoke to cleaners from other colleges. In my experience there are no set times for cleaning. We say a certain day of the week between 9am and 1pm, but even so this is subject to change.

We all had a master key which we signed out in the moring and returned before going home that allowed us access every room on the floor we were working. The procedure to use is knock, wait then if no answer, let ourselves in. All she had to do was say, 'no' or 'hang on' and he wouldn't have come in. How was he to know she was still in bed?

Also I highly doubt it was a member of the security staff. They have better things to do than hand out cables to students! Most likely it was a male cleaner (yes there are male cleaners!).

there cleaners are female and the girls get on great with them

dont highly doubt it was a male security guy...because it was

mountainofdebt

I have a certain amount of sympathy for the OP's daughter but I also have sympathy for the guy concerned......I mean if he didn't hear / get a reply how was he to know that there was someone in the room that hadn't heard him and that they weren't out ?

Does / Did anyone else have an issue with him entering their rooms using his key?

I know my son was away last week, not in Uni but in a setting similar to halls of residence and, and if he didn't want the cleaners in his room, all he ahd to do was to put the bin outside and they wouldn't enter. However I do think that in a setting such as halls, your daughter will have to come to terms with the fact that there will be people who will have access to her room such as cleaners and security men and they may enter using their keys.

mrcow

worriedsik wrote: »

does anybody else think this is out off order ?

Not at all - he was just doing his job.

If my mother had called my halls of residence over that when I was 18 I would have been mortified (and rightfully so).

littlemissmoney

Has anyone who is saying this is out of order ever actually lived in a uni halls of residence?? It's not like a private rental or your bedroom at home! People come and go all the time... testing your electrical equipment, cleaning the windows, emptying the bins, testing the smoke detector, etc. They will just knocks, waits 2 secs (if you are lucky) and unless you shout otherwise they will enter using their key. It's their job and all the things they are doing are for the students benefit!

As for a mum phoning up the uni... :eek: