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  • DonnyDave
    DonnyDave Posts: 1,579 Forumite
    gg2013 wrote: »
    Hi
    Not sure if this has already been answered as there are lots of posts for this thread?

    Checking on the 'Say No' website there is an alternate number provided for a 0845 number. The alternate number begins 01.

    I am currently on the BT free evening and weekend plan.

    When I check on the BT website, calls during the day to 0845 numbers cost 2.042 and 01 numbers cost 8.41 pence per minute.

    So unless I have missed something here, it seems I am better off sticking to the 0845 number.

    Any advice gratefully received.

    Thanks
    G
    On the BT Evening & Weekend Calling Plan calling 0845 numbers is indeed less expensive than calling 01, 02 and 03 numbers.

    The way in which packages are priced today — and this applies to the market in general and not just BT — is that the standard incidental price of a "normal" call (geographic/03) is zero. This is because only a few non-inclusive calls need be made to reach and pass the break-even point of moving onto a package which includes calls at the time one makes them.

    This is due to the combined effect of the high per minute charges, which are therefore penalty charges, and the cost of inclusive plans.

    So you are correct in that the penalty charge for geographic/03 calls is greater than the 0845 charge with BT. This is down to regulation on it which keeps the price of 0845 calls down.


    Chargeable (i.e. non-inclusive) calls attract a Call Set-up fee of 13.87 pence with BT.

    When geographic calls are billed, their duration are rounded up to the next whole minute. So the penalty charge of 8.41 pence per minute also applies for any part-minute.

    The duration of calls to 0845 numbers are rounded up to the next whole second rather than the next whole minute.
  • derrick
    derrick Posts: 7,424 Forumite
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    gg2013 wrote: »
    Hi
    Not sure if this has already been answered as there are lots of posts for this thread?

    Checking on the 'Say No' website there is an alternate number provided for a 0845 number. The alternate number begins 01.

    I am currently on the BT free evening and weekend plan.

    When I check on the BT website, calls during the day to 0845 numbers cost 2.042 and 01 numbers cost 8.41 pence per minute.

    So unless I have missed something here, it seems I am better off sticking to the 0845 number.

    Any advice gratefully received.

    Thanks
    G

    Because of the way BT are regulated this is an anomaly and you are correct, (don't forget the 14p connection fee), however of you use one of the following you will only pay a 5p connection fee and 0ppm for 01/02/03 numbers no matter how long the call duration.


    18185
    1899
    18866

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    Don`t steal - the Government doesn`t like the competition


  • gg2013
    gg2013 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Thanks for the information.

    Please clarify, as well as the 01 call costing more per minute I will also be charged a conection fee (13.87p) as well. Or do I get charged the fee for both 0845 and 01 calls?

    Cheers
    G
  • DonnyDave
    DonnyDave Posts: 1,579 Forumite
    gg2013 wrote: »
    Thanks for the information.

    Please clarify, as well as the 01 call costing more per minute I will also be charged a conection fee (13.87p) as well. Or do I get charged the fee for both 0845 and 01 calls?

    Cheers
    G
    The connection fee (Call Set-up fee) applies to all chargeable calls that are billed per minute. So yes, it applies to 01, 02, 03 and 0845 calls where they are not included in your package.
  • gg2013
    gg2013 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Hi


    18185
    1899
    18866

    Is there any catch with these sites?

    Will I start being plagued with unsolicited calls?

    Thanks
    G
  • derrick
    derrick Posts: 7,424 Forumite
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    gg2013 wrote: »
    Hi


    18185
    1899
    18866

    Is there any catch with these sites?

    Will I start being plagued with unsolicited calls?

    Thanks
    G


    Never had any.


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    Don`t steal - the Government doesn`t like the competition


  • I-LOV-MONEY
    I-LOV-MONEY Posts: 1,279 Forumite
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    gg2013 wrote: »
    Will I start being plagued with unsolicited calls?
    derrick wrote: »
    Never had any.
    .

    I have used 18185 for a few years and never had any problems.
    Thank you for reading this message.
  • gg2013
    gg2013 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Sorry about this!

    On the 18185 website, isn't their Rate Chart saying that a 0845 call during the day costs 3p a minute?

    Thanks
    G
  • derrick
    derrick Posts: 7,424 Forumite
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    gg2013 wrote: »
    Sorry about this!

    On the 18185 website, isn't their Rate Chart saying that a 0845 call during the day costs 3p a minute?

    Thanks
    G

    Yes it does, 0845 numbers are revenue sharing numbers and as such cannot be 0ppm, BT charge during the day 2ppm, (if not on their anytime package when it will be inclusive), but have a 14p connection charge as against 18185 having a 5p connection charge, only BT charge less than anyone else because of the way they are regulated and cannot charge more than the cost of the call on 0845.

    Your original post said,"Checking on the 'Say No' website there is an alternate number provided for a 0845 number. The alternate number begins 01.", my reply related to you calling the 01 number you found meaning by using one of the override numbers you would pay a 5p connection charge and 0ppm no matter how long the call lasted, with BT the connection charge for the 01 number would be 9p more for the connection of on override number plus ALL of the minutes you are on the phone at 6ppm, ? not sure about the actual cost, but it is more for 1 minute than the connection charge of an override number when calling 01/02/03 numbers.


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    Don`t steal - the Government doesn`t like the competition


  • gg2013
    gg2013 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Got it!

    Thanks for all the input.

    Very informative.

    Cheers
    G
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