Sky cards from XL Trading

MORPH3US

The only reason you want people to register on your site is a) to get their e-mail addresses and passwords b) to get their IP details and c) so you can change / delete any posts that you don't agree with...

MSE has no bias either towards or against you... its a neutral ground for you to answer your critics... so far all you have done though it ramble like a mad man...

Lets try and make this simple...

Q1. Can you tell us why the sky cards that you offer will be cut off after 1, 2 or 3 months...?

Try and answer that without any abuse in one paragraph.

Thanks

skrappy

This is the best thread I have had the pleasure if reading in years anywhere thanks to everyone! The pirate pictures were the best. should be made into a movie. liked the red text getting larger in every post, or was it my eyes after all the reading. Talk about digging a deep hole.

spike7451

Smeg77 wrote: »

I believe he has only one reason for you to register on his forum, using your nick from here, and that's most probably because his 'legal' requests to MSE to obtain you ip's has failed, and so in order to try and work out who you all are he now wants you to register on his forums, so he can try and go to your ISP's and ask for your details, and he'll be met with the same brick wall that the RIAA and BPI get met with, normally with two finger sticking up from the top.

Quite simply the only reason you would list something as a 'backup' or sell something as a 'backup' is so that you can get around the piracy laws.

You may have a loyal client base, but then that could be done to the fact that so many people need to 'backup' their software because the price in the shop was too much, I'm also guessing that these 'legal' back-ups contain no CD-Keys to go with them.

As for the Sky Cards, Pay-Per-View events are not included in any subscription packages, neither is SBO or the !!!!!! channels, so anyone offering a card that is able to view them is offering something that is illegal, as these services can only be purchased at the time and not through a subscription.

The cards probably expire because it takes Sky 1-3 months to detect them and cancel their numbers. £40 x 4 is £160 pa which is what it would cost from them if you wanted a year of not paying Sky, the like for like package on Sky for HD with all channels and sport/movies would cost £57.50 pm, or £690 pa (sorry if that's already been posted, I did skip a few pages)

IMHO the only way you could actually offer a legal back-up facility, is if the client brought to your shop the original material, which was then duplicated and given back. Someone being able to go to a website/shop and go errr...yeah I've got that, give me a copy...err.backup of that one cannot possibly be legal, as you are supplying goods the client may not own, therefore you are aiding and abetting theft, thus making yourself liable.

As an ex-NTL & Sky engineer I concur with you,it sounds like they are selling cloned cards which is illigal.The was a bloke prosecuted over here where I live for selling cloned cable cards & chipping the STB's & I was often getting asked by people if I could get them or knew where I could as a few contractors were selling them.

the_watcher87

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Its also a coincidence that the poster (the-watcher) logged in, posted on this thread, only viewed this thread & became in-active & logged out at the same time as XL Trading.

Perhaps XL Trading doesnt know that when viewing a posters profile it shows you when they leave the site & what they are viewing at the time.

Hi guys, not sure I'm understanding this post or not but are you accusing myself of being XL under another username. I can assure you I am not and I hope that a moderator or admin can confirm different IP addresses.

If that's not what you meant by your post then I do apologize. Just don't want people getting the wrong end of the stick.

halifaxflea

Why are people giving XL Trader more of their time?

It is quite clear the guy hasn't a clue what he is going on about, and his company is nothing more than shambolic at best.

I know I wouldn't want anything to do with something that looks so illegal.

CharlieBilly

Yes we know halifaxflea folk just having a bit of fun

Youkidding

You 'Don't support piracy'? You advertise modded games boxes on your site (The site with no contact details) What genuine game needs a modded machine to play it on? I have never read such a load of old twaddle in my life! Your 'business' is illegal from start to finish.

Youkidding

XLTradingUK wrote: »

WE GET OUR CARDS -DIRECT- FROM SKY!
WE PAY DIRECT TO SKY FOR THEM!

So what name does the customer give Sky when they call?

Youkidding

XLTradingUK wrote: »

In regards to this forum and defamatory comments, we would under UK law - be entitled to compensation.

PMSL - This is the best joke I have read for ages. Keep it coming. I'm rolling up!

will-in-estoril

will-in-estoril wrote: »

Run by a laddy in Sheffield (from his bedroom?) who goes by the name of Timothy.

Remember the final scenes in the 'Wizard of Oz'?:rotfl:

XLTradingUK wrote: »

Not at all.
My name is Peter for a start by the way ... hello all again

The final scenes from Wizard Of Oz I believe (great film by the way!) ended with Dorothy returning home.

hairy_g wrote: »

whois thows up an address for xltrading.net which also has this: registrant-email: @xltrading.co.uk.

The laddie Timothy now has a crisis of identity!

Before Dorothy returned home (to her bedroom :rotfl:) there is a scene where the Wizard of Oz's true identity is revealed: a tiny man hidden behind a screen pretending to be something he isn't.

Laddie, you are out of your depth: you may think this is all a bit of a laugh, but by your boasts and actions you have opened up a Pandora's box and drawn yourself to the attention of many powerful agencies. I really do hope you have a good legal team.