Social impacts of our situation...

inspector_monkfish

chucky wrote: »

lemon jelly would have made a much better point if he/she hadn't quoted the West Ham vs Milllwall game.

hooligans can't really afford to go to Premiership or even some Championship matches, they've been priced out and you dopn't want to be spending at least £100 a match to then get arrested. the face recognition technology to spot known hooligans works quite well for the police too.

most of the serious and more frequent problems at matches takes place outside of the Premiership and larger Championship teams at matches that are cheaper to attend... that's the better angle to support your argument...

and most of the trouble was caused outside the ground by those that did not even have a ticket, nor did they have any intention of getting one !

inspector_monkfish

kennyboy66 wrote: »

The last time they played in the league was 2005.
The match was a 12:00 kick off.

1000 police were in attendence.

This time it was an evening kick off, with pubs still allowed to open and only 500 police.

It is nothing to do with the economy but all to do with the history of this fixture and a fair bit of complacency from the police and West Ham.

The sight of assorted east London fatties was hilarious. Fashion capital of the world indeed.

if true millwall/west ham hooligans wanted a rumble, they wouldn't let a silly thing like timing get in the way....

its the extra hangers on in the pubs that get dragged out by the later kick off, the buster bloodvessels that got pi55ed up and ran on the pitch and then didn't know where to go !!:rotfl:

Davesnave

lostinrates wrote: »

This is not mine (and what a link!..ooh, looks smaller in posted message than while typing, where it is five lines long ) but sprang to mind immeadiately!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cochinbantams.com/Cochin%2520blue%2520cock%25201.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cochinbantams.com/our_cochin_photos.htm&usg=__fqzdee58BXQNYqQMKizqma7HjV0=&h=670&w=752&sz=49&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=UJ7PFxpvxG9AiM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcochin%2Bcockerel%2Bblue%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3DAfX%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

Careful, LIR, remember what happened to Mr B!!!!:rotfl:

ninky_2

ess0two wrote: »

Sparks are 2 a penny,plastering+plumbing the way to go.

interesting you say that. the property project managers i've talked to recently have said it's electricians that are in short supply. maybe it's a london thing?

ninky_2

lostinrates wrote: »

This is not mine (and what a link!..ooh, looks smaller in posted message than while typing, where it is five lines long ) but sprang to mind immeadiately!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cochinbantams.com/Cochin%2520blue%2520cock%25201.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cochinbantams.com/our_cochin_photos.htm&usg=__fqzdee58BXQNYqQMKizqma7HjV0=&h=670&w=752&sz=49&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=UJ7PFxpvxG9AiM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcochin%2Bcockerel%2Bblue%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3DAfX%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

lir you can make a long link smaller really easily by using a service such as tiny url. com useful for twitter users where your message length is limited...

http://!!!!!!!.com/

and here is you link as shortened

http://!!!!!!!.com/n87egn

although it doesn't seem to work on here....must be some sort of forum issue to stop people clicking on unknown links.

lemonjelly

Thought I'd resurrect this as Birmingham City Centre experienced its second pitched battle in its street within a month this weekend. This time, 90 people were arrested. Previously, 35 people were arrested. Here's a link to footage & a report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8239818.stm

My point is that in times of hardship, people tend to look for things/groups to blame. I assume that it is generally accepted that in times of hardship, extremism can be seen to rise.

I'm not saying that the economic downturn is the root cause of this trouble, but again would like opinions on whether there will be more of this. A recent football match (Luton Town I think) had to be cancelled/postponed because of a planned protest by the casuals united group, and police advised the football club they couldn't police the match & maintain safety in the town centre.

Will the more extreme sides of society show their faces more?

I still think there is a lot of anger out there...

inspector_monkfish

lemonjelly wrote: »

Thought I'd resurrect this as Birmingham City Centre experienced its second pitched battle in its street within a month this weekend. This time, 90 people were arrested. Previously, 35 people were arrested. Here's a link to footage & a report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8239818.stm

My point is that in times of hardship, people tend to look for things/groups to blame. I assume that it is generally accepted that in times of hardship, extremism can be seen to rise.

I'm not saying that the economic downturn is the root cause of this trouble, but again would like opinions on whether there will be more of this. A recent football match (Luton Town I think) had to be cancelled/postponed because of a planned protest by the casuals united group, and police advised the football club they couldn't police the match & maintain safety in the town centre.

Will the more extreme sides of society show their faces more?

I still think there is a lot of anger out there...

that demo is later this month...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8233580.stm


:mad: and just for the record, right... there is no bl00dy anger out there, ok?

now stop ressurecting, stupid, pointless bl00dy threads and get back in your bl00dy box, you annoying lump of disgusting flavoured jelly.. got it??

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

lemonjelly

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

that demo is later this month...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8233580.stm


:mad: and just for the record, right... there is no bl00dy anger out there, ok?

now stop ressurecting, stupid, pointless bl00dy threads and get back in your bl00dy box, you annoying lump of disgusting falvoured jelly.. got it??

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

You're scaring me now...

lemonjelly

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

that demo is later this month...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8233580.stm


:mad: and just for the record, right... there is no bl00dy anger out there, ok?

now stop ressurecting, stupid, pointless bl00dy threads and get back in your bl00dy box, you annoying lump of disgusting falvoured jelly.. got it??

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Mommy, the nasty man is shouting at me...

inspector_monkfish

lemonjelly wrote: »

You're scaring me now...

sorry !!