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Accident in store

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  • hundredk
    hundredk Posts: 1,182 Forumite
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    I was referring to Juliescott who has a mirror behind the fruit & veg in her local supermarket, not OP, the question was aimed at her, not OP.

    If the mirror was a display mirror that should go behind the display common sense would say OP should have avoided it.
    I realise that. The point is it's not relevant to what happened with the OP. All we know regading that is what the OP has posted. Whereever the mirror was in a store open to the public, it should have been in a position where it wouldn't fall on anyone. You don't expect to go into a supermarket and have to negotiate 7x3 mirrors as a hazard. The common sense and responsibility should be with the store.

    What if the customer had a disibility and could not apply common sense, or was visually impared etc. Not saying OP is in that situation but making this point to highlight why it is the stores resonsibilty to ensure the environment is reasonably safe.
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    do you all wear socks and sandals by any chance, lovl xxxxx

    I have no idea what everyone wears - why do you ask?
  • hundredk
    hundredk Posts: 1,182 Forumite
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    It didn't fall on her, she knocked it over.
    The mirror fell on OP. The reason for the fall was because OP moved an item on the shelf, dislodged the mirror and made it fall....but it did fall.

    The mirror should not have ben in such a position that it was possible to dislodge.
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    I was referring to Juliescott who has a mirror behind the fruit & veg in her local supermarket, not OP, the question was aimed at her, not OP.

    If the mirror was a display mirror that should go behind the display common sense would say OP should have avoided it.

    You seemed to imply in your previous post that you would not find mirrors in a supermarket. I merely pointed out that my local fruit and veg shop has them.
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    It didn't fall on her, she knocked it over.

    No - she moved something which caused the mirror to fall. Not the same at all
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    edited 30 August 2009 at 2:55PM
    juliescot wrote: »
    You seemed to imply in your previous post that you would not find mirrors in a supermarket. I merely pointed out that my local fruit and veg shop has them.


    No I didn't, I implied that you wouldn't find mirrors on the shop floor in a supermarket, I didn't imply there were no mirrors at all. See:
    A mirror, on the shop floor, in a supermarket, supposed to be there? Oh come on, since when were there mirrors in a supermarket on the shop floor, a dress shop maybe, but a supermarket,


    No - she moved something which caused the mirror to fall. Not the same at all

    And OP moving something which caused the mirror, which was 7 x 3 ft and she could not fail to miss, to fall is not the same at all as a mirror falling with no input.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • juliescot wrote: »
    Should the mirror be able to or expected to fall?
    If so the supermarket should have a sign which said - do not touch anything.
    In which case if the OP had done so then she would have been at fault

    I'm fairly sure that the op is not blind - so unless they have a sub average IQ they must understand that if two things are touching each other if you move one then there is a good chance the other will move. I'm also guessing that she may understand that big heavy things hurt when they fall on you, if not before then she does now...
  • peachyprice
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    edited 30 August 2009 at 3:01PM
    hundredk wrote: »
    The mirror fell on OP. The reason for the fall was because OP moved an item on the shelf, dislodged the mirror and made it fall....but it did fall.

    The mirror should not have ben in such a position that it was possible to dislodge.


    And common sense says OP shouldn't have have moved something that would cause a huge mirror to dislodge, she should have told the shop staff to move the mirror before grabbing whatever caused it to move, if she had any sense at all.

    She has as much respobsibility for her own actions as the shop does to make sure the shop is safe. If the mirror had been placed on a shelf and was concealed from OP until she removed something from the shelf it would have been a completely different scenario.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    No I didn't, I implied that you wouldn't find mirrors on the shop floor in a supermarket, I didn't imply there were no mirrors at all. See:







    And OP moving something which caused the mirror, which was 7 x 3 ft and she could not fail to miss, to fall is not the same at all as a mirror falling with no input.

    Apologies I thought that you meant you wouldn't find them in a supermarket at that part of the shop floor didn't realise you meant physically on the floor.

    You originally stated "It didn't fall on her, she knocked it over."

    Which she didn't
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    And common sense says OP shouldn't have have moved something that would cause a huge mirror to dislodge, how did she know the mirror would move? She may have thought it was fixed to something she should have told the shop staff to move the mirror before grabbing whatever caused it to move, if she had any sense at all.

    She has as much respobsibility for her own actions as the shop does to make sure the shop is safe. If the mirror had been placed on a shelf and was concealed from OP until she removed something from the shelf it would have been a completely different scenario.

    But the supermarket has a duty of care which they appear to have been negligent in.
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