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is this legal? - urgent advice wanted on plumbing when renting, please

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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    It is all about reasonableness.

    If a LL could not get someone to fix the problem, two weeks may be reasonable. Plumbers take holidays too. If the property was not habitable, it may be reasonable for the tenancy to end. It may also be reasonable to expect the tenant to turn the water off or to arrange an emergency plumber themselves.

    On this occasion I think carolt is not being reasonable.

    GG

    Why not?

    Interested - in what way am I 'not being reasonable'? I came asking for advice on an internet forum. I'm not stropping at my landlord; I wanted to check that proper precedures were being followed, for the protection of my family.

    I've now found out the answers to those questions. I really don't see what is 'unreasonable' about this. I usually value your opinions, so would be interested to read your response.
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    What a load of utter piffle.

    I don't know know what world you live in where mould spores take more than 2 weeks to develop.

    In the real world, mould spores will form on damp surfaces very quickly, certainly within a couple of days if it's as warm as you all claim it is. :rolleyes:

    It's you that is talking piffle and overusing the sarcasm smiley. If you had ever worked in a microbiology lab you'd know that fungal spores are fairly slow to grow unless you provide them with the ideal culture media and a stable temperature. I doubt that your ceiling provided such conditions so would respectfully suggest that you are not as observant as you think.
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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Scabs wrote: »
    If this really is the case I suggest you ring your LL and inform him again because he probably doesn't know the extent of the damage. It might be also worth turning the mains tap off if its a mains leak (maybe under sink) but if its the central heating system then the heating needs turning off and draining the system by the taps on the lowest radiator in the property.

    A more helpful post. The central heating is off - obviously, it's August! - but presumably there's still water in the pipes, which is what I assume we need a plumber for, to drain and replace. If there is something I can do constructively to prevent the ceiling falling in, please help!
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    edited 23 August 2009 at 12:55PM
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    It's you that is talking piffle and overusing the sarcasm smiley. If you had ever worked in a microbiology lab you'd know that fungal spores are fairly slow to grow unless you provide them with the ideal culture media and a stable temperature. I doubt that your ceiling provided such conditions so would respectfully suggest that you are not as observant as you think.

    You're welcome to come and take a sniff! That's mould. I may not be a microbiology expert, but it's pretty obvious without one.

    Also, please bear in mind we now also have damp woodwork and damp hall carpet - wouldn't like to say which bit is mouldering, but there's definitely mould.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    In my last house we had a leaking hot water tank and that can produce enough water to bring down a ceiling.

    The standard method of avoiding the ceiling coming down is to stick a knitting needle through the centre of the ceiling with a bucket underneath. This allows the water to escape without bringing the ceiling with it. If done soon enough it could prevent the ceiling needing much more than a drying out and repaint.

    Most home insurance policies will pay for the damage caused by the leak but not the repair to the leak itself.

    Useful post - how would one go about doing this, without potentially dislodging more ceiling, or, worse, the whole lot?
  • dfh
    dfh Posts: 1,073 Forumite
    I think the OP is being unreasonable given the steps the LL is taking.Problem is that the OP will dismiss any criticism and accuse people of siding with the LL.
  • dfh
    dfh Posts: 1,073 Forumite
    When people post on a public forum,there will be many different points of view.Unfortunately we cannot dictate what others can post.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    dfh wrote: »
    I think the OP is being unreasonable given the steps the LL is taking.Problem is that the OP will dismiss any criticism and accuse people of siding with the LL.

    Unreasonable about what?

    You're not making any sense. How is asking questions on an internet forum being 'unreasonable'?

    Do you have any constructive points to make, or are you determined to keep posting pointless personal attacks?
  • dfh
    dfh Posts: 1,073 Forumite
    edited 23 August 2009 at 1:10PM
    What should you do if you notice mould growing in your house or office?
    Do not panic! Seek professional advice. Not all moulds are dangerous to health, but no mould should be allowed to grow in our dwellings. Also the health effects of indoor moulds depend on the amount of mould one has been exposed to, length of time of exposure, the types of moulds present and individual’s resistance. Therefore, presence of mould does not necessarily mean the occupants have been affected.

    Looks like environmental health will need to be involved for the mould.The wicked landlord is at fault !
  • dfh
    dfh Posts: 1,073 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    Unreasonable about what?

    You're not making any sense. How is asking questions on an internet forum being 'unreasonable'?

    Do you have any constructive points to make, or are you determined to keep posting pointless personal attacks?


    Lots of poeple have pointed out the the LL seems to be doing his best and yet the OP continues to rave and rant.Besides if the LL has not produced the gas certificate then there are avenues to complain rather than posting on the forum.If there is an imminent risk people on this board can hardly come over and sort things out.If so much time has elapsed since the gas certificate has not turned up,why has the OP not written to the landlord yet? It is hardly likely this forum has any powers to make The LL produce the certicicate.
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