is this legal? - urgent advice wanted on plumbing when renting, please

dfh

Maybe the OP could have spent some time ringing around to find a plumber rather than spend all her time in front of the computer when things are so dire.

dfh

carolt wrote: »

Got back from holiday to find had had leak which was dripping down through our kitchen ceiling; nothing showing on the first floor, so it was obviously a pipe under the flooring, presumably leading to the central heating in one of the bedrooms, from the location.

Now, as we rent - phew! - luckily none of the cost of this is to be born by us.

However, the slightly worrying news, and reason I'm posting here, is that when our landlord got back to us today, he said he'd send round a non-Corgi registered plumber - who is retired, but is a friend of the landlord, and according to him, used to live on our street and fitted the central heating system for him originally.

This plumber is here now, messing about, and has said there's a leaking pipe under the carpet, as we thought, but he's going to have to drain the whole central heating system to change it.

Is this legal for a non-Corgi registered plumber to do???

I thought not.

Plus, a separate issue, we've not had a copy of the gas safety cert, although a gas check was done months ago (by a different, Corgi-reg plumber). Again, is that legal? I thought a copy was required?

Plus, the landlord gave us all of 15 minutes notice just now (we phoned yesterday), that the plumber was on his way; apparently the plumber was driving past, and the landlord figured it would be difficult to get hold of anyone at the weekend - but 15 minutes? On a Saturday morning? I wasn't even dressed, nor were the kids; luckily it's all tidy, as I had left the house tidy while we were away, and unpacked everything since we got back...but 15 minutes does seem rather a liberty.

Advice, anyone?

The original post asked the following questions?

This plumber is here now, messing about, and has said there's a leaking pipe under the carpet, as we thought, but he's going to have to drain the whole central heating system to change it.

1.Is this legal for a non-Corgi registered plumber to do???

The answer is yes.The plumber does not have to be CORGI registered to do that kind of work.


2.
Plus, a separate issue, we've not had a copy of the gas safety cert, although a gas check was done months ago (by a different, Corgi-reg plumber). Again, is that legal? I thought a copy was required?

The answer is no.You need a copy of the certificate.If your landlord has not given you one ,either demand one or complain to the right people.


3.Plus, the landlord gave us all of 15 minutes notice just now (we phoned yesterday), that the plumber was on his way; apparently the plumber was driving past, and the landlord figured it would be difficult to get hold of anyone at the weekend - but 15 minutes? On a Saturday morning? I wasn't even dressed, nor were the kids; luckily it's all tidy, as I had left the house tidy while we were away, and unpacked everything since we got back...but 15 minutes does seem rather a liberty.


15 Minute notice is not unreasonable.Especially when you say the problem is so dire.If you have problems tell the landlord that you can't be ready in 15 minutes.Coming on the board to moan will hardly let the landlord know how you feel.

That's was all that was mentioned in the original post.

carolt

clutton wrote: »

well ring the landlord again then

Oooh, what a helpful tip.

Never have thought of that one on my own.

Mips

Got to say, you are very lucky.

I wish the Landlord I had was kind enough to send someone around pronto - as it happened, the ceiling did cave in... I will provide pictures if you want

If you are that concerned about the kids safety - go to a friends. I moved out with all three of mine because the house was a wreck.

Although I do accept, I was naive to move in , in the bloody first place :mad:

carolt

dfh wrote: »

The original post asked the following questions?

This plumber is here now, messing about, and has said there's a leaking pipe under the carpet, as we thought, but he's going to have to drain the whole central heating system to change it.

1.Is this legal for a non-Corgi registered plumber to do???

The answer is yes.The plumber does not have to be CORGI registered to do that kind of work.

2.
Plus, a separate issue, we've not had a copy of the gas safety cert, although a gas check was done months ago (by a different, Corgi-reg plumber). Again, is that legal? I thought a copy was required?

The answer is no.You need a copy of the certificate.If your landlord has not given you one ,either demand one or complain to the right people.


3.Plus, the landlord gave us all of 15 minutes notice just now (we phoned yesterday), that the plumber was on his way; apparently the plumber was driving past, and the landlord figured it would be difficult to get hold of anyone at the weekend - but 15 minutes? On a Saturday morning? I wasn't even dressed, nor were the kids; luckily it's all tidy, as I had left the house tidy while we were away, and unpacked everything since we got back...but 15 minutes does seem rather a liberty.


15 Minute notice is not unreasonable.Especially when you say the problem is so dire.If you have problems tell the landlord that you can't be ready in 15 minutes.Coming on the board to moan will hardly let the landlord know how you feel.

That's was all that was mentioned in the original post.

Thank you so much for that helpful summary.

Glad to see you're keeping up.

Do you not have anything better to do with your Sunday?

I'm here as it's my leak. No idea what the fascination is for others.

Just to say - any more tips on how to deal with leaks much appreciated.

Original queries all resolved satisfactorily, thanks.

pete80

carolt wrote: »

At the end of the day, unless this is dealt with quickly, my asthma or inconvenience is not (I am sure) what is motivating my landlord. Paying to have the kitchen ceiling put up again is going to cost a hell of a lot more than paying to have a leaking pipe replaced.

And I can see no reason why I'm expected to feel grateful for this. It's what I pay and an arm and a leg for in rent.

As I know - thanks to this thread - that my landlord has already broken the law twice previously, I wanted to check they weren't going to do it for a third time.

Unless you have a kitchen 20 ft x 20 ft it doesn't cost much to put up a few plasterboards after a leaking pipe and skim the ceiling.

I had the kitchen ceiling replaced the day after it was notified to me and my tenant was very happy, same when the boiler packed up on a Tuesday - a new boiler fitted by Thursday lunchtime.

During my 9 years as a Landlord I must have been lucky never to have come across a miserable tenant like you seem to portray yourself as.
If the rent is so high, why not move out and get somewhere cheaper?

My brother is Gassafe registered and said if the gas system is not disturbed there is nothing wrong with having a leaking CH pipe replaced by a general plumber or handyman. No need to unscrew the boiler cover for that little job, just drain down water, replace pipe and refill via water filler loop. Simples:rotfl:

dfh

When I have rang my tenants they have often told me such and such a time in not convenient for them.I then ask them what time is convenient and we then agree upon the time.Surely it is not too much to tell a landlord that 15 minutes is not much of a notice rather than rant on a board.Something which can be sorted by a simple phone call is then turned into a massive issue on this board.

carolt

Dippychick wrote: »

Got to say, you are very lucky.

I wish the Landlord I had was kind enough to send someone around pronto - as it happened, the ceiling did cave in... I will provide pictures if you want

If you are that concerned about the kids safety - go to a friends. I moved out with all three of mine because the house was a wreck.

Although I do accept, I was naive to move in , in the bloody first place :mad:

Yikes. Poor you. I'm hoping we can avoid getting to that stage.

pete80

carolt wrote: »

Thank you so much for that helpful summary.

Glad to see you're keeping up.

Do you not have anything better to do with your Sunday?

I'm here as it's my leak. No idea what the fascination is for others.

Lol, you posted about your leak, your athsma bla bla bla, no fascination for us - just a bit better than watching the cricket, oh maybe not....:rotfl:

dfh

pete80 wrote: »

Unless you have a kitchen 20 ft x 20 ft it doesn't cost much to put up a few plasterboards after a leaking pipe and skim the ceiling.

I had the kitchen ceiling replaced the day after it was notified to me and my tenant was very happy, same when the boiler packed up on a Tuesday - a new boiler fitted by Thursday lunchtime.

During my 9 years as a Landlord I must have been lucky never to have come across a miserable tenant like you seem to portray yourself as.
If the rent is so high, why not move out and get somewhere cheaper?

My brother is Gassafe registered and said if the gas system is not disturbed there is nothing wrong with having a leaking CH pipe replaced by a general plumber or handyman. No need to unscrew the boiler cover for that little job, just drain down water, replace pipe and refill via water filler loop. Simples:rotfl:

That is what I don't understand.Despite a catalogue of complaints that seems to have gone on for a long time,the OP refuses to vote with her feet and would rather stay in the house so she can moan about the landlord.