I wish you could sue smokers!

Fire_Fox

Anthillmob wrote: »

and just to totally !!!! you off i smkoked when i was pregnant with both my kids and they are fine, both good birth weights etc etc.

come on, tell me i bred a couple of defective children. are you going to say my kids occasionally misbehave because i smoked.

i do what i want when i want because I CAN. i wont be bleated to by do-gooders and the like.

whats wrong with thi9s country is the involvement of do-gooders telling all and sundry how one should behave and how one should bring up their kids and now we are overrun with unruly little !!!!!!.

Don't feed the trolls. Thank you!

momoyama

hartcjhart wrote: »

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What about there? What's your point?

momoyama

Fire_Fox wrote: »

That's not the whole truth tho is it? Qualitative research shows that the average smoker doesn't enjoy in the traditional sense all of the cigarettes they smoke in a day, many are simply relieving cravings. HOWEVER there are some cigarettes that individual smokers will consistently describe as pleasurable, and these are not necessarily the ones smoked when blood nicotine levels are low.

OK. Interesting new research. Thanks.

momoyama

janninew wrote: »

I think people are going to have to agree to disagree on this subject!

Side issue, but stupid phrase (not getting at you personally, janninew). I won't "agree to disagree", I'll just disagree. Politely and respectfully disagree, of course. There's no harm in disagreeing. It doesn't have to be a bad thing... until it turns into a thread like this.

janninew wrote: »

I personally can't stand smoking, but if other people want to do it, thats up to them. I'm never rude to them, I just stay away from them. I have encountered many rude smokers in my time, but then i've encountered many rude drivers, shop assistants etc. As long as it doesn't effect me, i'm quite happy for people to do as they please.

All entirely fair an in complete agreement with everything I've said, though I've emboldened a point that I'm sticking to.

momoyama

Fire_Fox wrote: »

And if you can't see you are dressing up the convenience of you driving as needing to drive then there really is no hope for you. Choose to live somewhere on a regular bus route, choose to buy a bicycle and get fitter, choose to get up earlier, choose to book the appointment on a day you have more time, choose to take half a day off work.

You are coming across as hypocritical and that's coming from a non-smoker. I have survived to age 36 without driving a car, as have millions of other people on the planet. :rolleyes:

I can't see how I'm being hypocritical anywhere. As far as I'm aware I haven't contradicted myself at all. I completely agree that traffic is a polutant. However, I live 20+ miles from Worcester. The buses would not enable me to get to my appointment and back on time and appointments have to made based on availability and my work. I'm not saying traffic polution is "right", I never have, but I have said it's a necessary evil, nay that we wouldn't have the productive society that we do without cars. A solution to this does indeed need to be found as our own productivity is messing up the planet.

What I keep saying is that the arguements of traffic and the arguments on smoking are seperate issues. I suggest (already have, actually) that the subject of cars is brought up in a seperate thread.

dandare

just had a quick browse of this!
you folk are hilarious, both sides!!
what exactly like do ye want to sue them for?what are ye wanting to gain? cash ? the right to not have smoke blown in yer face?
there's a lot of smoke being blown on this thread and it's not coming out of peoples mouths!!

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

how do you know we dont enjoy a fag?

Until a post today, I would have said because of knowledge of addiction mechanisms. Medicine and our knowledge of the human body and all it's facets really is very clever these days, as is education in spreading that knowledge.

That recent post certainly is interesting, though.

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

is it !!!!. i enjoy having a fag sometimes. and i dont get the chemical craving you so bleat about, i can quite happily go without a fag and without a craving. but sometimes i want a fag and enjoy it.

Actually, just ONE cigarette has an addictive draw.

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

your type will only be happy when us smokers are only allowed to venture outdoors to do our shopping etc in the dead of night when those of you who are so clean you gleam are fast asleep in your comfy bed dreaming of wearing your angels wings.

1. Just where have I said anything even remotely like that?
2. When I lived in Cardiff, I used to enjoy shopping in the middle of the night. I'm naturally noctural. Relevent to this thread, but not this post, there were a lot less people around and so inherantly a lot less smokers.

Anthillmob

momoyama wrote: »

Actually, just ONE cigarette has an addictive draw.

and how do you know this if youve never tried one oh doctor of all that is good?

you dont half talk some tosh.