I wish you could sue smokers!

Anthillmob

momoyama wrote: »

1. Just where have I said anything even remotely like that?
2. When I lived in Cardiff, I used to enjoy shopping in the middle of the night. I'm naturally noctural. Relevent to this thread, but not this post, there were a lot less people around and so inherantly a lot less smokers.

if youre naturally nocturnal then why dont you stay inside your home during the day and leave the rest of us to do what the !!!! we like when we like and do what you want in the !!!!ing dark.

simples.

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

moyonaise

momoyama.

Anthillmob wrote: »

do you go to bonfire night?

Not usually. Doesn't interest me. I have been known to be drawn by Mrs Yama with the promise of mulled wine and fine company. Yes, I do question the purpose of this "celebration", the atmospheric effect and the A&E burns admissions.

Anthillmob wrote: »

light bonfires in your garden?

Nope, never.

Anthillmob wrote: »

have barbeques?

I attend other people's barbeques. I admit that I hadn't considered the environmental effect. I suppose the couter arguement is that everyone that attends the barbeque does so of their own free will and it isn't harming anyone around.

I would add that I didn't take the discussion into the realm of environmentalism. I'll let others more qualified or more oppinionated on that particular subject comment rather than I.

Anthillmob wrote: »

if so then they pollute the air more than a faint whiff of fag smoke.

Yes, but your cigarette is repulsive and unwelcome.

Anthillmob wrote: »

would be interested to know just how much of a hippcrit you really are

I believe that most people are hypocritical or at least contradictory to some degree. That's the nature of the flawed human being and the complexity of the issues of civilisation, I guess. I'd like to think that I'm no more a hypocrit than anyone else. Certainly I don't believe that I've demonstrated any hypocrisy on this particular thread.

Anthillmob wrote: »

afterall you drive a vehicle.

Yep, and we keep going off on a tangent to that sub arguement with no resolution there either. New thread for it?

Anthillmob wrote: »

do you drive to work?

As a rule, no. Though there are circumstances in which I do.

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

someone explain my dads sad death from secondary cancer of the liver as he only ever had a cigar on very rare occasions.

What? People die from things other than smoking? Go away! I'm shocked. :rolleyes:

ShaShaSha

TheBex wrote: »

"SORRY"? You clearly aren't, so don't say it. Man I wish I could sue liars.

Its called sarcasm....lol

Anthillmob

people smoke of their own free will compare that to your barbeques

and i find you repulsive and unwelcome but please dont let that and your opinionated ways stop you. mr must-have-the-last-word

momoyama

Anthillmob wrote: »

my sister was so stressed about her last pregnancy she was warned AGAINST giving up by the midwife.

I can see this argument. Don't compound the stress by adding in chemical withdrawal. Of course she'd have been MUCH better off not smoking to begin with.

Anthillmob wrote: »

so sue me. i prooved it wrong twice.

So, you're the only person to have children ever? Me, I've managed to live to the age of thirty. Everyone must be able to then? SIDS? Can't exist. Look - I proved it!

Anthillmob wrote: »

and the nhs and government cant make their sodding minds up on whats good or not from one week to the next.

On some things that's true. That's called advancing research and whereas it's bloody annoying we should be grateful for it. Some things we're in consistent complete agreement over. The number one thing is SMOKING!

momoyama

jinky67 wrote: »

I could give up quite easily, but choose not to

I would suggest to the contrary. Many people say this... then try. And struggle.

momoyama

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Don't feed the trolls. Thank you!

Fair post entirely. Guilty man, sat over here.

dandare

On some things that's true. That's called advancing research and whereas it's bloody annoying we should be grateful for it. Some things we're in consistent complete agreement over. The number one thing is SMOKING!

dunno about that, a doc friend told me that a couple of fags a day does no harm whilst pregnant, they just don't like to say so . i was asking as my gf is, by the way she's doing great with stopping for those concerned about our childs well being.

momoyama

dandare wrote: »

what exactly like do ye want to sue them for?

OK, my usual every-day argument that I don't think I've actually stated here.

If I were to walk up to you, as someone that I have never met and just punch you in the nose without provocation, you'd probably not be too happy. You'd probably feel that you'd been harmed and may want me arrested and charged for assault. Reasonable in a civilised society?

"Smoking harms you and others around you". So, someone smoking near me is harming me. That's FACT. So I believe that that person should be arrested and charged with the appropriate crime.

It's simple logic. I'm often accused of being extreme in my view, but all I'm actually doing is being logical. I have friends far more extreme than I who who actually do believe that smokers should all be shot (I'm not exagerating).

dandare wrote: »

what are ye wanting to gain?... the right to not have smoke blown in yer face?

Yes, absolutely. In all seriousness, I would like smoking banned in all public places and around children and vulnerable adults. Let smokers smoke. Just let non-smokers be smoke-free.

It's not too much to ask, surely?