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Unemployment increases to 2.44m

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  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    My window cleaner has a ladder and a bucket, charges £7 for 6 windows!

    £7.50 round my way.
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  • Really2
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    ess0two wrote: »
    £7.50 round my way.

    Mines £15. I think his first name is Robin
  • Entertainer
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    The ILO definition of unemployment is done through a survey and does include people who are seeking work but not elegible for benefits, like self employed people. To quote:

    "Those with no paid work in the survey week who were available to start work in the next fortnight and who either looked for work in the last month or were waiting to start a job already obtained."

    So when people pluck figures of 4/5 Million out of the air they are way off. What they are including is people who are economically inactive e.g stay at home mothers, drug addicts, early retirees etc etc- not the same as being unemployed- you need to be actively seeking work.
  • PasturesNew
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    I'd be bl00dy useless at window cleaning. Carrying a ladder I'd be like one of those comedy sketches that spins it around (if I could actually manage to lift/balance it). I am cack handed and quite pathetic at anything involving manual coordination of objects. It's a mild dyspraxia, I just grew up knowing I couldn't do a whole bunch of stuff and being cack handed and people just tellling me to "do it/any fool can". I even gave up being a secretary years and years ago as it used to involve making coffees.... I have trouble remembering what more than 2 people want and I can't balance/carry even 2 cups on a tray through/round obstacles. I now know that these are traits quite often associated with my little speshulness, which is great because finally I know "it's not me" that's useless, it's my speshulness.

    Me with a ladder would be asking for trouble.

    Then there's the actual reaching. 5'1" and you can't reach much ... and if I could get up a ladder (fears) I'd be wobbly and without the ability to reach far enough to clean a whole window in one go.

    I'd end up in a heap, soaked, crying, before the first window was done.
  • PasturesNew
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    The ILO definition of unemployment is done through a survey and does include people who are seeking work but not elegible for benefits, like self employed people. To quote:

    "Those with no paid work in the survey week who were available to start work in the next fortnight and who either looked for work in the last month or were waiting to start a job already obtained."
    How would they know that then? I am not on any official paperwork, yet I applied for a job on Sunday. They will never know that. I am off their radar entirely. There are thousands like me who are looking for work in their own little world.
  • themanbearpig
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    mitchaa wrote: »
    400 customers with a 2wk re-clean
    600 customer with a 3wk re-clean

    Will make you a continual £1000pw

    My mums window cleaner has around 5000 customers, obviously employs staff as its too much for him but he is reportedly clearing £3k pw window cleaning. Its then upto you to tell the taxman how many windows you're cleaning. (Honest officer;))

    Its a cash in hand job, very easy to do and something i am really thinking about taking advantage of on top of my main day job as there is honestly no one doing this in my area and what's a fiver a time to someone living in an affluent area of 3/4/5/6 bed private homes, they can easily afford a fiver every 2-3wks.


    :rotfl:

    £52Kpa being a window cleaner? lol

    Why bother with education, just send your kids to the streets cleaning windows, because that sort of money takes decades to achieve in professional fields.
  • bo_drinker
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    How would they know that then? I am not on any official paperwork, yet I applied for a job on Sunday. They will never know that. I am off their radar entirely. There are thousands like me who are looking for work in their own little world.
    Yes and the Gov't brush you/ them under the carpet conveniently. I am s/ employed and work is up and down. I know others in the same boat who have savings and paid in to the system all their lives and are entitled to nowt, and therefore do not show up on the official figures. When you are s/employed you are a non entity almost, scum o t e. :confused:(only time you are bothered is when tax is due)

    Hey Pastures you could clean bungalow windows, :confused:
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • Entertainer
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    How would they know that then? I am not on any official paperwork, yet I applied for a job on Sunday. They will never know that. I am off their radar entirely. There are thousands like me who are looking for work in their own little world.

    PN you understand the statistical concept of survey sampling? You know when they have opinion polls, they are polling a few thousand people (not ten million) and extrapolating it to the whole population. A perfectly sound method with decades of reliability if done properly.

    Basically there will be plenty of PasturesNews among the x thousand that they question in the survey.
  • mitchaa
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    :rotfl:

    £52Kpa being a window cleaner? lol

    Why bother with education, just send your kids to the streets cleaning windows, because that sort of money takes decades to achieve in professional fields.

    Did you watch dragons den last week? If not fast forward to 46mins below..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00m1n62/Dragons_Den_Series_7_Episode_4/

    http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/4531744.Dragon___s_Den_invests_in_window_cleaner/

    This chap was making £6kpm at the age of 19 window cleaning (50:30 in the footage)

    If a daft geordie can do it, a daft jock could too;)
  • SailorSam
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    I'd be bl00dy useless at window cleaning. Carrying a ladder I'd be like one of those comedy sketches that spins it around (if I could actually manage to lift/balance it).

    Me with a ladder would be asking for trouble.

    Then there's the actual reaching. 5'1" and you can't reach much ... and if I could get up a ladder (fears) I'd be wobbly and without the ability to reach far enough to clean a whole window in one go.

    I'd end up in a heap, soaked, crying, before the first window was done.

    I'm only 5'2". I've been painting the outside of my house, i'm sure my neighbours have been having a good laugh watching me try to push the ladder up, and as for fear, people thought i'd spilt white paint but it was just my face turning white.
    Thank god the upstairs is done, only downstairs left.
    If i move again it will be a bungalow
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