The Great 'Gok Yourself' How To Dress Thread

GotToChange

vik6525 wrote: »

Thats the part I dont understand you see. The way we present ourselves to the outside world actually TELLS the world who we are. Whether we like it or not, everyone judges. Everyone.
And I often wonder how we got to the state in this country where 'overweight, tracksuit wearing' became the 'norm'? Is it because people have no self esteem, and they dress to reflect that? Or is it that they dress like that, and therefore have no self confidence? The two are linked, but why?

I agree with you - honestly. But not everyone has the same mindset (and as I've said either on this thread or another - it makes the rest of us look good....) and there are as many reasons for the fall in "standards" of taste and style as there are for the obesity epidemic - although on that note; the girl at the gym I have just joined said that in her home country of Lativa, there are no fat people, there are no "glands problems" - there are no Macdonalds. Go figure.

Personally, I can be quite a snob when I see overweight people in their tracksuits/sportsgear and trainers (or worse, flipflops or ....Crocs!) when it's evident they have not just come from the gym, track or sports hall. At a certain size, the gym won't help - weight loss will need to initially be induced by dietary changes - at larger sizes, it is going to be impossible to reach sufficient levels of exertion to burn fat and strength/weight training may be quite simply impossible due to an overweight body shape.

I know that if I got fat, I would have a big issue with confidence (I don't actually have that much at a normal size/shape) so it is undoubtedly cause and effect. Although, consider that some people have been brought up to think that it doesn't matter what other people think about them so dress quite simply how they want to but once people are on the path to weight gain, their confidence may surely plummet and they stop caring; it takes an iron will to pull yourself back from the brink; not everyone has that - it doesn't mean that they are in any way complacent about their situation (they could be utterly heartbroken over it) - there are as many variables as there are faces and fat bottoms on the high street. It is so very individual that it is totally wrong to tar everyone with the same brush.

GotToChange

flippin36 wrote: »

Don't you think kindness and compassion is more attractive than any clothes you can buy on the highstreet. Give me someone with a sense of humour any day.

All three are invisible though.

Katie-Kat-Kins

Puzzledbubbles wrote: »

lol, look at me the fashonista, im going to open my own advice section in my local Primarni changing room lol

:rotfl:Sorry puzzled, you're too late, my mum's already got that one nailed!!! She's terrible, telling people that the dress they are trying on is too tight - one day someone will deck her......

vik6525

GotToChange wrote: »

I agree with you - honestly. But not everyone has the same mindset (and as I've said either on this thread or another - it makes the rest of us look good....) and there are as many reasons for the fall in "standards" of taste and style as there are for the obesity epidemic - although on that note; the girl at the gym I have just joined said that in her home country of Lativa, there are no fat people, there are no "glands problems" - there are no Macdonalds. Go figure.

Personally, I can be quite a snob when I see overweight people in their tracksuits/sportsgear and trainers (or worse, flipflops or ....Crocs!) when it's evident they have not just come from the gym, track or sports hall. At a certain size, the gym won't help - weight loss will need to initially be induced by dietary changes - at larger sizes, it is going to be impossible to reach sufficient levels of exertion to burn fat and strength/weight training may be quite simply impossible due to an overweight body shape.

I know that if I got fat, I would have a big issue with confidence (I don't actually have that much at a normal size/shape) so it is undoubtedly cause and effect. As always though, it is so very individual that it is totally wrong to tar everyone with the same brush.

I used to be fat.... HUGGGGEEEEELLLLY fat, and it did knock my confidence a lot. But I never let my standards slip. Its about knowing what you've got, and making the best of it. Its about covering over your rubbish bits, and showing the best bits (even if it IS just an ankle or a wrist, as it was in my case )....
Be whatever size you want to be, thats a totally individual choice, but also LOOK the best you can look. Because a 19 stone woman in a pair of tiny denim hotpants will NEVER be Daisy Duke, and shouldnt even attempt to be....

GreenNinja

Sexy_Legs wrote: »

I don't actually rate him very much on the Fasion show either, but really enjoy his "How to Look Good Naked" series, as at least then it the more day to day high street fashion he is promoting rather than all that designer rubbish, I mean who is going to buy a dress and sew some mesh at the bottom of it.

For me the best part of his show is when he shows the woman her "new capsule wardrobe", I have taped all the shows from the last series and always watch these sections over and over (sad I know!) for inspiration when shopping. There was one he did for a lady that was the local mayor, think she was a bit of a biker chick on her days off. Did anybody see that one? It was the best capsule wardrobe he did, she had literally 20-30 outfits and lots of looks from just a few items.

GotToChange

vik6525 wrote: »

I used to be fat.... HUGGGGEEEEELLLLY fat, and it did knock my confidence a lot. But I never let my standards slip. Its about knowing what you've got, and making the best of it. Its about covering over your rubbish bits, and showing the best bits (even if it IS just an ankle or a wrist, as it was in my case )....
Be whatever size you want to be, thats a totally individual choice, but also LOOK the best you can look. Because a 19 stone woman in a pair of tiny denim hotpants will NEVER be Daisy Duke, and shouldnt even attempt to be....

But thats YOU sweets.
I, on the other hand, would kill myself if I got anything like HUGE (mainly because it would mean that I then had no life). That doesn't mean that either everyone can pull themselves together like you did or want to top themselves like I would.
You have got the right idea about focussing on the best bits - some people think that Gok, Trinny, Susannah et al are Gods beamed down from Heaven - some people quite literally don't give a monkeys. Who is to say that they - or you - or I am/are right and it is up to anyone to offer (sometimes very harsh and critical) advice about what people are wearing when all that seems to matter is how they are regarded? Sure, they may feel like dog-do but that doesn't seem to be what Dippychick - and even you to an extent -is/are saying; the focus is on them being offensive to the eye.
Look away then, that's all.
I read recently a quote but can't remember it word for word - but it was something along the lines of the people that you may see as you walk along may have some special skill or talent that you don't and that they have a life as complicated and interesting as you or I... The clothes are the wrapping - even the most colourful, smartest and fashionable can make their wearer look a bit of a t*t.

tara747

dizziblonde wrote: »

You know what? You should just rename this thread to "let's all slang off everyone we've ever seen in the street and fat people shouldn't wear any clothes at all."

I've never seen such a collection of unpleasant, catty observations collected in one place for a long, long while. Nothing constructive after page 1... just page after page of "oh if you're fat don't wear x"... "I saw a woman wearing x and she wobbled a bit hee hee heee"... large people need to dress too... you've already lambasted Gok for falling back on wide leg trousers and loose floaty (but not see-through) tops... yet you've ridiculed everything else that particularly large people wear.

Yes, I'm fat - and surprisingly, I wear a lot of wider leg trousers, longer tunic length tops that tailor in at the waist - because.... THAT SUITS ME.

Honestly though - you're the worst kind of women for some of the stuff you're coming out on on here. Quit lying to yourselves that you're talking about how to dress yourselves - you're just wanting to shred other people relentlessly.

OMG! :eek:

dizziblonde - please try not to take this the wrong way, but I really don't think that this thread is about making fun of people.

I have seen other posts directed at you which were very hurtful and I think that you have every right to feel annoyed by them. However, the advice on this thread is genuinely meant. It is just a fun thread for sharing tips on how to make the best of what we've got. I've said already that slimmer girls need just as much advice as larger ones, and that is true.

I haven't read the entire thread, but if there are individual posts which you find offensive, then by all means point it out to those posters. To attack the entire thread as being nasty just seems strange. Are you being a touch oversensitive about your size and seeking out comments about weight in general? I have seen other posts of yours where you literally jump down someone's throat for fairly minor comments.

I mean all this in a nice, constructive way, I promise. I started the thread in a spirit of 'let's share useful tips and information' and would hate to see it degenerate into a slanging match. It seems like we all have to creep around on eggshells these days.

tara747

~*Plushroom*~ wrote: »

Shall I attempt to get us back on topic? Or go hide under the desk?

Anyway, thought of more useful stuff.

If you wear white shirts invest in a good flesh coloured bra. Not only does this mean if it's slightly sheer no-one is looking at your nipples, but also if you get caught in a downpour you won't have truckers honking their horns at you because you were mad enough to wear a black lacey bra that is now completely visible I know this one from experience and am currently looking for a good flesh coloured bra because of this

Oh goodness, I am totally with you on the flesh coloured bra thing!! I have several, they are a godsend.

Now I'm off to reflect on my own fashion disasters (there have been many) and share them with y'all

absolutebounder

tara747 wrote: »

OMG! :eek:

dizziblonde - please try not to take this the wrong way, but I don't really think that this thread is about making fun of people.

. I started the thread in a spirit of 'let's share useful tips and information' and would hate to see it degenerate into a slanging match. It seems like we all have to creep around on eggshells these days.

I think people are too ready to hit the "run to mummy button". If I was really upset by a comment I would pm the poster first because it is fairly easy to get the wrong end of the stick when reading just words. Especially when some people either accidentaly or on purpose are not too good at english.

GotToChange

absolutebounder wrote: »

I think people are too ready to hit the "run to mummy button". If I was really upset by a comment I would pm the poster first because it is fairly easy to get the wrong end of the stick when reading just words. Especially when some people either accidentaly or on purpose are not too good at english.

Not much ambiguity in Dippychick's (to dizziblonde), was there?

Wit has it's limits. I have no idea what she was trying to achieve; maybe she will explain later.