Taking drinks onto a plane.

Pollycat

bagand96 wrote: »

In reality what would happen is that if you were drinking your own alcohol you would be asked to stop. If you refused you would then be not complying with instructions of the crew, who are representing the captain, at which point the captain can decide you are a risk to flight safety and can either divert, or have you met by authrotities at destination. If you become agressive they can use reasonable force and even restrain if necessary.You can also be done for breech of the peace (or whatever the technical term is).

Makes sense to me.

I'm sure if the person is discreet about pouring out their own alcohol and doesn't get rat-arsed or abusive during the flight, cabin crew would be none the wiser.

However, if you get out your litre bottle of duty free vodka you've either just bought on board or at the airport and start swigging from the bottle, you're asking for trouble.

thatsfabulous

Pollycat wrote: »

Makes sense to me.

I'm sure if the person is discreet about pouring out their own alcohol and doesn't get rat-arsed or abusive during the flight, cabin crew would be none the wiser.

However, if you get out your litre bottle of duty free vodka you've either just bought on board or at the airport and start swigging from the bottle, you're asking for trouble.

Either way your asking for trouble......

For most people less than a bottle of alcohol would make them drunk so even is small quanities it still doesnt make it acceptable to drink your own alcohol onboard an aircraft.It doesnt take much to become drunk onboard as flying makes the effects of alcohol worse.

Cabin crew DO have the right to limit or refuse the right to sell alcohol ( and this happens a hell of a lot).
You can also be refused carriage on your return flight or given conditions of carriage on your return flight if you are caught drinking your own alcohol.
They can take alcohol away from you during the flight and will return it to you as you disembark the aircraft, it will not be kept by the crew.

Its just not worth it, were all into money saving however unless you want your next thread to be ' Ive been refused carriage on my return flight, how can i get a cheap flight home?' Don't bother!

Pollycat

thatsfabulous wrote: »

Either way your asking for trouble......

For most people less than a bottle of alcohol would make them drunk so even is small quanities it still doesnt make it acceptable to drink your own alcohol onboard an aircraft.It doesnt take much to become drunk onboard as flying makes the effects of alcohol worse.

Its just not worth it, were all into money saving however unless you want your next thread to be ' Ive been refused carriage on my return flight, how can i get a cheap flight home?' Don't bother!

I wasn't suggesting that anyone should consume massive amounts of their own alcohol.

As I said, if you were discreet and moderate in your drink intake, how would the cabin crew know that you were drinking your own alcohol?

Personally I wouldn't take my own drink on board, I like to have a small (18cl) bottle of wine with my meal - the flight is part of my holiday and I don't stint myself when on holiday.

Pollycat

thatsfabulous wrote: »

Cabin crew DO have the right to limit or refuse the right to sell alcohol ( and this happens a hell of a lot). If drinking your own alcohol and are 'drunk' you can be arrested as its an offence to drink your own alcohol and ILLEGAL to be drunk onboard. You can also be refused carriage on your return flight or given conditions of carriage on your return flight if you are caught drinking your own alcohol. They can take alcohol away from you during the flight and will return it to you as you disembark the aircraft, it will not be kept by the crew.

I notice that you edited your post whilst I was typing my reply.

There's a difference between consuming copious amounts of alcohol resulting in drunkenness and taking say a 100ml bottle of spirits between 2 people.
That's 2 pub measures each - I certainly wouldn't be in a drunken state after 2 gin & tonics - even taking into account the fact that alcohol affects you more when flying.

thatsfabulous

Pollycat wrote: »

I wasn't suggesting that anyone should consume massive amounts of their own alcohol.

As I said, if you were discreet and moderate in your drink intake, how would the cabin crew know that you were drinking your own alcohol?

Personally I wouldn't take my own drink on board, I like to have a small (18cl) bottle of wine with my meal - the flight is part of my holiday and I don't stint myself when on holiday.

I know that you wasnt suggesting that.

I just wanted to make people aware who may not that its an offence no matter how much or little you consume, also some people are not aware of the effects the alcohol can have on each individual.

The cabin crew are in the cabin constantly on flights so you could be very discreet and drinking very little but still be caught ( and be very embarrassed)

thatsfabulous

Pollycat wrote: »

I notice that you edited your post whilst I was typing my reply.

There's a difference between consuming copious amounts of alcohol resulting in drunkenness and taking say a 100ml bottle of spirits between 2 people.
That's 2 pub measures each - I certainly wouldn't be in a drunken state after 2 gin & tonics - even taking into account the fact that alcohol affects you more when flying.

I dout anyone would be drunk after one gin and tonic. I was talking about being drunk in general not specifying quantities

Eitherway one gin and tonic or 7 gin and tonics you still shouldnt be drinking your own alcohol onboard an are commiting an offence no matter how little you are drinking.


Reason for edit - going off the thread subject, the member now knows the infomation.

Pollycat

thatsfabulous wrote: »

I just wanted to make people aware who may not that its an offence no matter how much or little you consume, also some people are not aware of the effects the alcohol can have on each individual.

I think the problem is that when the cabin crew announce that only alcohol purchased on-board from the drinks trolley can be consumed aboard, it's usually mixed in with other announcements about where the toilets are located, what the crew's names are etc etc that a lot of people don't hear it.

If airlines made it a separate announcement, stating what the penalties could be, it may have more impact.

bagand96

I'm sure if the person is discreet about pouring out their own alcohol and doesn't get rat-arsed or abusive during the flight, cabin crew would be none the wiser.

However, if you get out your litre bottle of duty free vodka you've either just bought on board or at the airport and start swigging from the bottle, you're asking for trouble.

Exactly. Of course, it is against the rules and I wouldn't condone it, and I don't do it.

But when it comes down to it, as long as you're not causing a scene there shouldn't be any problem, and as long as you know the possible cosequences. At the end of the day if you were caught and asked politely by the crew to stop, and you then refused, you would deserve the armed greeting you would get at the destination

adouglasmhor

bagand96 wrote: »

I don't want to get drawn into an argument, but I don't recall anyone ever stating that the airline or its staff can confiscate alcohol and keep it? Of course they have to hand it over to the relevant authorities, and that is exactly what would happen. When the police meet the aircraft the passenger and the relevant evidence would be handed over.

In reality what would happen is that if you were drinking your own alcohol you would be asked to stop. If you refused you would then be not complying with instructions of the crew, who are representing the captain, at which point the captain can decide you are a risk to flight safety and can either divert, or have you met by authrotities at destination. If you become agressive they can use reasonable force and even restrain if necessary.You can also be done for breach of the peace (or whatever the technical term is).

I agree with what you are saying, but Tozer implied the captain was able to do whtever he liked without being answerable with his statements of things like "It would not be theft as a Captain's prime duty is to protect the safety of the aircraft. There would be no "dishonesty" in the case you mention. Thought that was pretty obvious".

adouglasmhor

thatsfabulous wrote: »

I dout anyone would be drunk after one gin and tonic. I was talking about being drunk in general not specifying quantities

Eitherway one gin and tonic or 7 gin and tonics you still shouldnt be drinking your own alcohol onboard an are commiting an offence no matter how little you are drinking.


Reason for edit - going off the thread subject, the member now knows the infomation.

But you are not committing an offence, you are breaking the Airlines own rules and terms and conditions, still wrong but not an offence as such.