The Trials and Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)

time2deal

I'm trying to chill, but I actually am having a party tomorrow, so lots to do to prep. I'll relax for a while then get back to the list!

tea_lover

T2D - am glad it's done now, hope the next steps are done quickly and over with soon. Hopefully you've got a nice relaxing evening planned - fluffy pjs, hot water bottle, DVD, chocolate. Take care xx.

bigzippy

V, I have to go through the maternity wing to go for my blood tests etc... Pleasant (!)

T2D, well done! Ibuprofen and chocolate is prescribed

Tea, I'll take a bfp in swap for a medal...?

lilymay1

Hi everyone,

I'm sorry I've been so rubbish lately. I just had a quick read back and wanted to send big hugs to TD2. I really hope it all comes back as good news

Zippy - Let us know how the bloods go. Fingers crossed.

AFM - I got my appointment letter through the post today. 7th December which makes me CD23. So clomid for my next cycle! yay! Seems like my NHS bashing was unecessary and I am very sorry. Naughty me.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

Lily

bigzippy

In the nicest possible way, I wouldn't count your chickens where these appointments are concerned... It may be that they just want to try one more thing, or do one more test, etc etc. Obviously I hope that's not the case, but until it's in my hot little hands, I wouldn't believe it

I don't think I'll get/ask for my blood test results til my appointment.

lilymay1

bigzippy wrote: »

In the nicest possible way, I wouldn't count your chickens where these appointments are concerned... It may be that they just want to try one more thing, or do one more test, etc etc. Obviously I hope that's not the case, but until it's in my hot little hands, I wouldn't believe it

I don't think I'll get/ask for my blood test results til my appointment.

Was that aimed at me?

From the conversations my consultant and I have had previously, it was always the plan to give me clomid if OH's SA and my HSG were all fine (which they were). She seemed certain that lack of ovulation was my problem given that I have never had a problem getting pregnant before and I can carry babies to term before. It's always been the end of the pregnancy that gives me problems, not the conceiving part!

Anyway, like you say, she may well want to run some more tests. I wouldn't be opposed to that given that I don't think ovulation is my problem. But we will see. Fingers crossed.

How many DPO are you now? Do you have a test date?

bigzippy

lilymay1 wrote: »

Was that aimed at me?

From the conversations my consultant and I have had previously, it was always the plan to give me clomid if OH's SA and my HSG were all fine (which they were). She seemed certain that lack of ovulation was my problem given that I have never had a problem getting pregnant before and I can carry babies to term before. It's always been the end of the pregnancy that gives me problems, not the conceiving part!

Anyway, like you say, she may well want to run some more tests. I wouldn't be opposed to that given that I don't think ovulation is my problem. But we will see. Fingers crossed.

How many DPO are you now? Do you have a test date?

Yes, but only because I've been to many an appointment where I've been confident of what the outcome would be and then blindsided and disappointed afterwards. I just don't want you to suffer the same fate

ETA: I think the other reason I mentioned anything was because you're not in agreement about not ovulating, so I figured you would probably want to go armed with a list of questions, the outcome of which may have a knock on effect of postponing clomid for you.

I do hope it goes to plan though and it does the job

Um..7ish? Trying not to think about it in dpo numbers, cos it gets too tempting to do early testing and "symptom" spot (/invent!), but I know I'm due AF/to test next weekend. Don't want to test in between cos it would be a week day and I wouldn't be able to keep it to myself while waiting for dh to come home, and I really think he should be the first to know I've no idea how long my LP normally is though, cos I've never successfully pinpointed ov accurately enough, so we'll see...

lilymay1

bigzippy wrote: »

Yes, but only because I've been to many an appointment where I've been confident of what the outcome would be and then blindsided and disappointed afterwards. I just don't want you to suffer the same fate

ETA: I think the other reason I mentioned anything was because you're not in agreement about not ovulating, so I figured you would probably want to go armed with a list of questions, the outcome of which may have a knock on effect of postponing clomid for you.

I do hope it goes to plan though and it does the job

Um..7ish? Trying not to think about it in dpo numbers, cos it gets too tempting to do early testing and "symptom" spot (/invent!), but I know I'm due AF/to test next weekend. Don't want to test in between cos it would be a week day and I wouldn't be able to keep it to myself while waiting for dh to come home, and I really think he should be the first to know I've no idea how long my LP normally is though, cos I've never successfully pinpointed ov accurately enough, so we'll see...

Ah yes, I totally understand. Sorry, I re-read what I wrote this morning and it seemed a bit stand-off-ish....it wasn't meant that way at all!

I am in 2 minds about whether or not to ask for more investigations at this appointment. Like you say, I don't want them to postpone clomid but at the same time if ovulation isn't the problem it's potentially wasting another 6 months. I may ask her to do some more blood tests to check if my hormones are all correct. I will be CD23 by then and so *should* have ovulated...maybe I could ask her to do the CD21 bloods again to see if my progesterone levels are high enough? That would mean avoiding using progesterone cream this cycle though...

Would you do me a favour and have a look at my charts over the past 6 months or so. Do you think they show clear ovulation? My temps are very very very erratic anyway, but I've recently started doubting myself. My temps this month are higher than usual for pre-ov (36.3) but still really low in the grand scheme of things I love how learning about TTC asks as many questions as it solves!

And I have everything crossed for you this month. Everything sounds like it's all set up perfectly so fingers crossed you get that magical BFP. You have to stay here if you do though....who else will give me all the clomid advice!

tea_lover

Why am I so nervous about the FS appt on wed? We've had lots of appts before, but I'm bricking it about this one. I know this sounds mad but I feel like they're going to be cross with me because clomid made me ov really late, it's like I've failed a test so now they won't help me anymore .

Having just read that back am starting to think I need a psychiatrist rather than a fertility specialist .

Also just had to fend off "didn't you want children" questions from a well-meaning colleague. Trying not to be annoyed as I know her heart's in the right place but it's not easy. Particularly as she clearly thinks it's far too late for me now.

ETA: also, FF didn't give me crosshairs even though I had 3 consecutive raised temps (far higher than I ever get pre-ov) so now am narked with that as well.

TeamLowe

i always think i'm going to get shouted/dismissed at appointments as well tea lover. i hope you're appointment goes well, i'm sure they're used to that reaction to clomid and there may be something else they can give (that begins with a T but i can't remember what it is)

AFM i'm really really really really pleased to say i've ovulated for the first time since August!
Unfortunately, i'm in the BigZippy 'hating myself for being so hopeful' camp. FF gives us a 'good' intercourse timer score and i accidentally looked at the due date calculator and they say it would be 16 August so now i'm all 'ooooh it's fate!' as DH's birthday is 13th and MIL is 14th, so clearly that's a pattern that's meant to continue

...although i'm a little bit down at that thought too and it takes my hope away because i remember thinking that this time last year. it makes me think i'm no closer to a baby but actually, we've made good steps through getting referred to the gynae x x