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The Trials and Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)

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  • Seems the area I live dosen't offer free treatment to couple with previous sterilization and I rekon that still stands.


    ginvzt wrote: »
    I found yesterday a table on the internet saying the criteria. Just went through my history and found it, maybe of some use - not all of them say that previous sterilization is a no-no, but that is a year or 2 old info:
    http://www.parliament.uk/deposits/depositedpapers/2008/DEP2008-2501.pdf

    Also, today I found this info in guardian with the age limits, BMI, etc:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/aug/06/fertility-problems-nhs

    Check "DATA: download the full datasheet, with all criteria" for more details.

    It seems that my PCT didn't say anything about BMI. They have a rule of 2 years on reliationship/infertility.

    Oh, and just found the source of all this:
    http://www.shapps.com/reports/
  • ginvzt
    ginvzt Posts: 4,878 Forumite
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    Sorry devil...

    Well, first day at work after couple of weeks break on sick leave. And first thing I hear is that the senior person from client company who recently took up the position is coming to meet my group and have a presentation about the software we use. I would have liked to know in advance about it, as I wasn't dressed up very smart and besides, with my body so run down, I am not looking the best, and the shingles on my face add that special touch'... It was fine in the end, as I send the most of the day in the meeting, so didn't really have to think much!

    AF arrived this afternoon - not too bad yet, but I hope the worst will get over during night (it is usually very painful in the first day or so, but I will see how it goes after lap).

    Went to GP surgery to get my last vaccination (can't ever remember which one I am getting, it is a set of three), jsut to be told that I will have to come back later as I am still on antibiotics for the shingles. To be fair I was expecting it. So, I asked for appointment next Tuesday morning, before I go to see my consultant. He mentioned after lap that we will be discussing the treatment...
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  • jiblets1
    jiblets1 Posts: 1,211 Forumite
    I'm finding it really difficult to find out about the PCT's in Wales. Any ideas?
    Thanks.
    Am not witty enough to put something cool and informative here:o :o
  • ginvzt
    ginvzt Posts: 4,878 Forumite
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    edited 10 August 2009 at 8:46PM
    jiblets1 wrote: »
    I'm finding it really difficult to find out about the PCT's in Wales. Any ideas?
    Thanks.

    Just a quick search on google, but is this of any use:
    NHS Acceptance Criteria for Wales

    Couples from any part of Wales can ask to be referred by their GP to our centre. They are eligible for 1 cycle of IVF or ICSI:
    The Criteria are as follows:
    1. The woman should be under the age of 40 at the time of treatment.
    2. The woman should be under the age of 38.5 at the time of referral
    3. The woman should have had no previous NHS IVF or ICSI
    4. The woman should have had no more than 2 previous private cycles if IVF or ICSI
    5. The couple should have been trying for a child for 2 years
    6. For couples- there are no children (biological or adopted) living with the couple and one of the partners has never had a biological or adopted child.
    7. For single women that the woman has never had a biological or adopted child.
    8. Subfertility is not the result of a sterilisation procedure in either partner/ single women.
    9. The woman should have a body mass index between 19 and 30 at the time of treatment.
    10. Couples should be non-smoking at the time of treatment
    11. The welfare of the child has been considered
    Couples who have embryos frozen in the first cycle are entitled to have those embryos thawed and replaced through a Frozen Embryo Transfer cycle.
    Additional IUI Criteria for Couples from Mid-Wales (Powys/Dyved)

    Couples from mid-Wales are entitled to 3 cycles of NHS IUI treatment.
    The criteria are as follows:-
    1. The woman should be under the age of 40 at the time of treatment.
    2. The couple should be married or in a stable relationship for two years and should have been trying for a child for 2 years
    3. The woman's body mass index should be between 19 and 30

    EDIT!!!! Look here, might be more use, as I noticed you are from Cardiff. This is Word document from www.cardiffandvale.wales.nhs.uk (search for IVF)

    http://www.cardiffandvale.wales.nhs.uk/pls/portal/url/ITEM/32F01A13948CD08FE040A8C082960ECE
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  • jiblets1
    jiblets1 Posts: 1,211 Forumite
    ginvzt you are brilliant. My google was an absolute failure. Thanks very much.
    Am not witty enough to put something cool and informative here:o :o
  • shelly
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    Just an update for those of you waiting to hear about how I got/get on with the mooncup I talked about getting earlier on in the thread....

    Well I got one from e-bay last week and it arrived today. My first reaction when I took it out of the box was :eek:
    Blimey, its much bigger than I imagined it. Typical timing that AF has just finished so you (and me) will have to wait awhile now till I can test it properly and give my verdict. I am going to sterilise it and 'try it for size' in the next couple of weeks so that I am comfortable with it once AF gets here.
    I don't want to be faffing around trying to insert it and take it out again to trim the stem whilst in full flow :o

    Nothing else to report! :D
    :heart2: Love isn't finding someone you can live with. It's finding someone you can't live without :heart2:
  • Nikabella
    Nikabella Posts: 413 Forumite
    Sorry to come & hijack your thread but just wanted to say that I have a Mooncup & spent ages faffing with that blooming stem - in, out, trim, in, out, trim, etc. In the end I cut the entrie thing off as no matter how short I cut it, it still stabbed into my insides when I moved around - for something made of silicon it's not that soft! I have no problem getting it out without the stem - I just use the "squeezing the bottom of the cup" method to release the seal & then it comes out easily. I don't really see the point of the stem - also contracting your muscles does help it to move down should it get a bit high to reach.

    HTH,

    A.x
    :DBeautiful DD born Jan 2007 :D
    :sad: One Angel baby lost April 2009 :sad:
    :D Beautiful DS born March 2010 :D
  • ginvzt
    ginvzt Posts: 4,878 Forumite
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    Nikabella wrote: »
    Sorry to come & hijack your thread but just wanted to say that I have a Mooncup & spent ages faffing with that blooming stem - in, out, trim, in, out, trim, etc. In the end I cut the entrie thing off as no matter how short I cut it, it still stabbed into my insides when I moved around - for something made of silicon it's not that soft! I have no problem getting it out without the stem - I just use the "squeezing the bottom of the cup" method to release the seal & then it comes out easily. I don't really see the point of the stem - also contracting your muscles does help it to move down should it get a bit high to reach.

    HTH,

    A.x

    I'll have to try that, as the stem is really hurting me and that is why I don't use it!!!! I wouldn't be able to sell it on, as I did try using it, so for something quite pricey I feel cheated if I can't get on with it!!!..
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  • JoJo77
    JoJo77 Posts: 88 Forumite
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    Hi All, just to add my twopennath about the mooncup. I having been using one for about 6 months. I had to cut the whole of the stem off as well as it was digging in. It took a month to get used to it but now it's just really simple and I wish I'd bought one ages ago.

    On a different subject...I was pretty depressed when AF showed-up as you probably all remember, but I got back my PMA. I'm currently on cd22 and feeling really odd. I wanted this month to be the perfect month but it hasn't been as I did drink alcohol in the first weeks and I forgot to take my clearblue fertility monitor away on holiday with me so no idea if we bd'd at the right time or not. However, I've had a funny feeling where I normally get af pains but it's not a pain it kind of feels tight and solid. Also, I'm suddenly struggling with my blood sugar and have had 2 'crashes' in the last week. The clomid always makes me hungry after ov but it's not the same. I don't normally symptom spot as I hate to line myself up for disappointment and after 4 years of trying that's a lot of disappointments! Am seeing the consultant on Monday where they are going to refer us for ivf so I guess I'll ask then. What do you all think? Have I finally lost the plot?
  • ginvzt
    ginvzt Posts: 4,878 Forumite
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    edited 11 August 2009 at 2:08PM
    JoJo77 wrote: »
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    What do you all think? Have I finally lost the plot?

    Of course not!!!!! I do hope that this is the month for you as we desperately need some good news here!!!!

    P.S. Can I just say that I don't like the new navigation through pages????
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