CPW/TT to offer FREE broadband (merged)

ArsenalFC

There are alot of uncertainties with this offer. I would hold out for a while until we get feedback from people who has joined.

davidfree007

I agree with that, give 2 or 3 months till the dust has settled!

inside_scoop

Rich_Johnston wrote:

INSIDE SCOOP, I have a few questions:

1) You initially said TalkTalk 3 International gave free calls to South Africa, but the website says not... could you clarify?

2) I currently call South Africa (a lot) and use a 2p a minute line with aother telecom company. The TTI rate is over 5p. If I choose this offer (and I am eligible for the unbundling deal) can I still use this line, even if I'm not paying BT rental anymore?

3) I hear some stories about TT restricting P2P activity. As a UKNova user, this concerns me. Is this the case? Expecially considering the BBC's move into this area...

Hi there

Apologies for my mistake on the Free calls to SA - i was looking at an old internal email where it was included. It is not now part of the unlimited international calls

There is no restriction on using other pre-dial routing services using the TT line.

Peer to peer activity is restricted during peak hours. I am not sure what peak hours means yet but i will find out.

nickmack

inside_scoop wrote:

There is a schedule for unbundling exchanges, If your local exchange is going to be unbundled at some time in the future, irrespective of when, then you will qualify for free BB straight away.

It's a shame no one including CPW employees, seems to know or are able to find this information out at the present. I have it on good authority that TT are basing some of their decisions on the demand in the area.

regvardy

In laymans terms can some-one explain the restrictions on peer to peer traffic?

As touched upon earlier, correct me if I'm wrong, you would only be able to download between midnight and 9am.

Would peer to peer include downloading movies, football match highlights (sky by broadband), downloading music, uploading music files, downloading missed episodes of BBC soaps?

If you get 8mbs speed, you will undoubtedly start doing some of the above because its practical.

If the ability to download this content is restricted to midnight and 9am, the 40GB download in an EMPEROR with no clothes.

Stevev99

I agree that on the face of it, it's not a bad deal but let's be realistic that CW are not going to want to absorb £50 million losses for ever and also as we all know..YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR FREE.

Carphone Warehouse is charging all its customers a £29.99 "connection fee" and they have to sign up to a calls package costing £20.99 a month. In addition, anyone living outside an urban centre has to pay an extra £9.99 charge.

The service is not available in one third of the country.
Look behind the detail of some of the marketing hype!

Another fact of which people should be aware, is that after the first two weeks, a 20-minute call to the Carphone technical helpdesk costs £10 :eek: compared with 60p with BT.

Lastly let's not forget that the CW customer service is allegedly not good!
Could be £10 badly spent should you have problems/

Me? I'm going to wait until we see what the big players are going to counter with!

nickmack

regvardy wrote:

In laymans terms can some-one explain the restrictions on peer to peer traffic?

As touched upon earlier, correct me if I'm wrong, you would only be able to download between midnight and 9am.

Would peer to peer include downloading movies, football match highlights (sky by broadband), downloading music, uploading music files, downloading missed episodes of BBC soaps?

From the TT Fair Usage Policy:

"We restrict P2P activity in peak hours to make sure that other general Internet use takes priority (including surfing, email, shopping, gaming and commercial downloads). Between midnight and 8am we allow a greater proportion of P2P traffic."

This is generally achieved by something called 'Traffic Shaping'. Simply speaking, the Internet Service Provider (TalkTalk) analyses the data you are using and restricts the speed for certain types such as Peer2Peer networks.

To answer your second question, you should be able to use P2P during the day but it will be severely throttled. At night they will allow faster speeds for P2P traffic.

P2P would not include Sky Broadband Movies/Sport, BBC Soaps or any other music except if it were downloaded from a network such a BitTorrent.

christopher_h

I for one am very interested in this CW offer...... It's a already a PR coup for them with every major news headlines covering the offer and the other companies must be green with envy. There must have been some serious planning and investment which the end user (us) will benefit from.


I'm with BT Broadband at £24.99 per month (2MB) so I can save £300. approx per year......not to be sniffed at. I might wait a couple of weeks but I do intend calling BT cancellation line tomorrow to see what they offer then I'll check it again in a couple of weeks......though personally I can't see how an of the other companies will be able to compete - it's pretty great deal.

Thank you CW for being bold, the price wars usually benefit us and besides, I believe everyone should have BB internet, dial up is just not the same experience at all :T

itsfrommark

I was suprised that one cannot transfer from NTL direct to TalkTalk. Does this mean one has to subscribe / return to BT first and then transfer?

The CPW website confirms this on entering one's tel. no. and postcode with an ERROR and:

'Your telephone number is registered with another operator we can't transfer you from, so we can't offer you TalkTalk.'

Perhaps one of the TT reps on here can advise me please.

Thanks Mark

normanmark

Yeah you'll need to get rid of the ntl phone line & get a BT one put in as Talk Talk's service uses rented BT lines.