Debt Free & Fat Free Wannabees??

MinnieSpender

amosworks wrote:

I wish sometimes people would support me without judging me :rolleyes:

Oh what a world

Hi amosworks - I hope you don't think I'm highjacking here, I'd just like to say a few words. This isn't aimed specially at you, however!

I would hope this thread is a place for support and honesty. We came to the site originally because we needed help for our money problems and I'm sure we're all grateful for the things we've learned and the help we've received.

This thread is offering people help with weightloss.

They're both fairly similar issues, aren't they? They both cause us concern and we're looking for support from people who are initially strangers, but (I like to think) become our friends in cyberspace.

That's the crux of it really - the "friends" thing.

Different friends offer different things. I've got one mate who'd I'd share the deepest darkest secrets of my soul with. Another you'll tell me the truth with no holds barred. Another who is a great drinking pal, but I might not trust her with my last fiver! You can't rely on one person to give you everything you need. (Aha! lightbulb moment! :j THAT'S why I'm still single!!!)

But something I've learnt at my grand old age is that you change as you get older. You'd leave a dull job for something better. You'll move house if the ceiling was caving in. Sadly I've gradually lost touch with my oldest school friend because we just grew apart. But I'll always have fond memories of her and would be there if she ever needed me. But right now, she's not what I need in my life.

Be aware that you're changing and that people will change around you. Be open to meeting new people who will support you or laugh with you or hold your hair back while you yoddle down the porcelain fountain. But don't be afraid to move on.

Finally, don't think of the odd treat as a sin. Food is a blessing - how lucky are we to have an excess of it?

No one judges anyone on here. If they did, I'd send the boys round!

Sorry if this sounds preachy or new-age hippy - it really isn't meant to!

southernscouser

I like to think that I'm a really laid back person who doesn't like confrontations but I'm biting my lip so hard it's about to bleed!

I'm not easily shocked at all but amosworks, you have serious problems mate.

Your not going to like what I'm going to say but it needs to be said.

Either you have mental issues or your a complete ******* idiot who is just seeking attention.

My money is on mental issues as I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

If you achieve your goal you will end up killing yourself. Are your "mates" still gonna take the pi$$ out of you then? I'd be ashamed to even associate myself with those people let alone call them my friends.

You need to see a doctor and see a doctor quick. I've read that you were 21 stone, and yes that is a lot overweight but looking at your pictures you posted I'd say you were at your ideal weight and so would medical professionals.

If I didn't know better I'd say you were suffering from depression.

And whats all this crap about you being a horrible disgusting person for eating a Kitkat? If that isn't a cry for help then I don't know what is!

If you don't seek professional help you will be throwing your life away! You want people to be honest, fine. At 21 stone you were a fat ba$tard. There I said it. Does that make you feel any better? But jesus christ man there is nothing wrong with you now. You are not overweight. I'm not saying that to make you feel better or because it's what you want to hear. I'm saying it coz it's true and I'm not out to bull$hit you or anyone else.

Eating disorders is an illness and you are suffering from this. Thats why you need help from professionals.

As for your 'mates', let them take the pi$$ all they like. Just point them in my direction and they will all put on weight from swallowing all their teeth! You are never gonna get out of your state of depression hanging around a bunch of toss-pots like that. Take a step back at look at the bigger picture for a while. These pr**ks are obviously destroying the tiny amount of self respect you have for yourself and until you get rid of them you will never be happy.

I myself need to lose about 20lb's that I've put on over the last 6-8 months but I'm doing it for myself. I don't give 2 sh*ts what anyone else thinks and neither should you.

You need to ask yourself why so many people have been alarmed by your remarks. The reason is because it's not normal. You need help. You have a medical condition. It's no different to cancer or a broken leg. You need help to fix it. Don't be ashamed to admit you need help coz if you don't you might aswell start saving for your coffin now.

Please take a look at this website or do a Google search for something similar. If you want to be happy only you can make it happen by taking control and getting help.

http://www.edap.org/p.asp?WebPage_ID=337

I don't want you to take offence by this post and if anyone else does I will remove it.

SS

amosworks

Right, thanks for that
I think I'm gonna leave this cuddle now. It's nice to know that after encouraging other people to achieve their goals that you get the same in return. No good deed goes unpunished.
Thanks a bunch

MinnieSpender

There's a lot to what southernscouser says - and thanks for saying it!

I've been through the depression mill twice now. I hope I never have to go through it again. Getting over it is bl**dy hard work and there is no way you can do it on your own.

If anyone is suffering from any of the symptoms of depression, GET HELP NOW!!! It is an illness, it can be treated, and you will get through it, but not if you don't admit it.

Start with your GP. If your GP is no good or won't listen, get a new one. I did after my second bout and she turned my life around. These days I'm harder, wiser (maybe I've got more selfish) and aware of the triggers. Very often that's other people. People get one go with me these days. Abuse my trust and they don't get a second chance. That has led to some pretty big changes in my life but as long as I'm surviving, I don't really give a hoot.

The upside is respect. I respect myself more and if you do that, other people do too.

amosworks - you may well have outgrown these friends of yours. Signing up here shows you want to change. If they don't want to change with you, stuff 'em! There are 8 billion people on the planet and they're not all bad! Some might even like you for the person you are!

southernscouser

amosworks wrote:

Right, thanks for that
I think I'm gonna leave this cuddle now. It's nice to know that after encouraging other people to achieve their goals that you get the same in return. No good deed goes unpunished.
Thanks a bunch

AW,

I'm not here to cause you or anyone else pain, or cause trouble or try and wind people up or upset them.

This isn't a personal vendetta or me picking you out for bullying.

I don't even know you but like everyone else on here I'm concerned for you and your health. You have disregarded everyone elses concerns so I decided rather than beat around the bush I'd try and hit you where it hurts in the hope it would make you sit up and realise something isn't quite right.

All I ask is that you go see a doctor. If they decide there is nothing wrong with you fine. But we both know you need help. You've just got to face up to it. I just hope for your sake you find the strength and courage to ask for it.

freebird65

Good morning all.....I'd like to add my tuppence worth to this discussion before getting back to what I came on here to tell you all.......if I may...

Amos....nobody wants you to leave or is trying to get at you. Your advice has been great and has added another interesting dimension to the thread. But everybody is simply VERY concerned for your wellbeing as, despite what you think, your goals are unhealthy and your viewpoints can be a bit worrying.....case in point being your reaction to eating a kitkat. This isn't a lack of support - the reaction you've had has been a measure of the fantastic support in this thread and you'd do well to listen as it's excellent and a lot better than what you're getting from your "friends".

I was desperate to be part of the "in-crowd" in my early 20's, hanging out in the so-called trendy haunts of London, but I just never quite seemed to fit in, was villified as you appear to be by these so-called great people and thought I was a total waste of human space. Then one day an aquaintance dragged me along to a rock concert....oh my god...the maddest people I'd ever come across and not one of them gave a t**s what I looked like, where I was from....just that I was me. Well, I totally changed.....ditched the "friends" and became a bit of a rock-chick....I ride motorbikes, have fab friends who love me no matter what I look like, have travelled loads and realised there is a lot more to the world than the superficiality of the in-crowd. A lot of this you only realise with age (I'm now in my 30's), but the sooner you do, the sooner you will be a much happier person and ENJOY you life and all it has to offer!

I truly wish you well.....as does everyone here!

freebird65

Now for my other news....first weigh in last night...

3.5 LBS DOWN!!!!!
LAAAAAAAAA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:j :j :j :j :j

Now that has really motivated me....am going back to look for all Minniespender's nice menus etc. My friend was a bit down cos she "only" lost 1.5 lbs and was very good, but a bit of mutual cheering up soon had her determined to keep going. Maybe someone can help - she's doing WW points but doesn't eat meat and thinks she's eating too much processed carb like pasta and noodles. Any alternative suggestions?

amazon_spice

Brisk walking for me with a walkman on. Seem to be able to go for ages as long as I've got the radio or some sounds to listen to.

Would never contemplate jogging - bad for back and knees. Power walking, striding out and swinging the arms - just as effective and less harmful to your joints.

I also line-dance. Fabulous exercise - great social activity - can make it as energetic or mild as you like.

PS no we don't all wear stetsons and shout yee-ha and the music isn't all dogs dying and rolling hills - My latest fave dance is to Sugababes "Push the Button"

devils_nose

:T :T :T for freebird!! Well done you!!

I had a bad day yesterday.. zero exercise and far to much in the way of crisps and chocolate I thought I would have more will power after such a good week but it all went to pot!

Never mind - start afresh today, the sun is shining so I can walk back to the park and ride this evening.. I didn't manage to make myself lunch today (oops) but I can get a salad from the work canteen without spending too much cash.. and I'll make some soup this evening so I've got something to bring in for lunch tomorrow!! Must get back on track

vix1978_2

:T Well done Freebird (and to your mate as well!).

I managed to stick to my healthy eating yesterday and did a 30 minute interval jog (1 minute job, 1 minute walk). Less than 9 weeks till I have to run 10k with a mate! :eek: