Parking fine at Mid-kent college

oldone_2

Some people are becoming very confused over student debt to their college. It is well documented that colleges will withold degrees where the student has a debt for tuition,books etc; and this will almost certainly be in their 'terms and conditions' of enrolment.
In the case of the O.P. the invoice is from a Private Parking Company, not the college; and the very well tried and trusted action is to ignore this debt and eventually they will go away. This happens with PPC's operating in hospital grounds, supermarkets and retail parks, and the college car park is no different.

LinasPilibaitisisbatman

It is different

1) Colleges say any debt owed to them on the whole - not just educational debts

2) If the PPC is acting as an agent or passes on a percentage then part of the PPC fine is owed to them and thus a debt

Tbh I know for a fact I wouldnt take the risk for 40 quid and I doubt any of the PPC haters would either if it was there diploma or whatever on the line or the potential of a years delay which is a real chance here.

pogofish

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

How not?

The college get informed OP's daughter hasnt paid for parking permit/penalty notice.

College advise no progression til paid.

You really are not living in the real world of how colleges etc act.

Because this is not a school playground.
(although I'll agree that HE management can verge on being in the playpen at times )

And if they did try it, the college would pretty quickly remind them that they had no say in the matter either way.

pogofish

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

1) Colleges say any debt owed to them on the whole - not just educational debts

2) If the PPC is acting as an agent or passes on a percentage then part of the PPC fine is owed to them and thus a debt

Yes debts owed to them directly but not to a third party. Who may well not even have a proper contract to begin with - remember how many cases have failed at that little hurdle.

PPCs are not acting as agents here - The ex-gratia payment system makes that quite impossible. Also, the more general unenforcability of private parking "debts" simply makes it all the more unlikelly.

LinasPilibaitisisbatman

Well at the end of the day I disagree.

I think some colleges/unis would count this as a debt owed and consider withholding qualifications/progressions and I certainly wouldnt risk it for 40 quid as by the time they fight it the new academic year will have started and they may well find their education put back a year.

Certainly know of at least one person I studied with who had their degree withheld til they paid for their outstanding parking charges due to illegal parking. The law maybe wouldnt agree with it but that person didnt fancy losing a job offer whilst they fought through court for under a hundred quid.

Neil_B

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

http://www.kent.ac.uk/gettingstarted/assoc/finance.html

You are the one not getting it

Yes the fees for parking may be unenforceable in a court of law, however, it will be far more damaging to the OP's child if this was to hamper their education or they couldnt graduate or proceed whilst fighting this thus their is an argument life may be far easier paying up and not taking the risk.

OP whilst this may not be upheld in a court of law do you or your daughter really want to spend many weeks/months fighting this, creating disagreement with the instituation and generally risking her long term education for the sake of £40 quid.

Hey, you have got it dead right you know!

The little 'crew' that recently visted my business explained it to me in exactly the same terms.

Quite simply, ''give us some money for no reason whatsoever otherwise we will see to it that you cannot continue to operate''.

(they are currently 'on holiday').

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1984ReturnsForReal_2

Personally I would pay the £40 if the alternative was having to park half a mile away in a pay & display for the next educational year at a cost of £3 or £4 per day after having my parking permit taken off of me for not paying a £40 (invoice/fine/debt/waste of paper or whatever).

Now not only would that save me (or my daughter) a few walks in the dark & rain it would save me loads of money.

Like what I said earlier, check the facts & the possible repercussions first BEFORE listening to the blanket response of some of the posters on here who apply their logic to every case no matter how illogical.

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Thats verging on the quite rediculous.



No sorry. Correction. Its beyond rediculous.

Really - No more daft than your other pro-PPC posts on here. A quick search reveals that you have had your a*se kicked resoundingly on this subject before. :rolleyes:

Neil_B

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

the possible repercussions

Wow! what a coincidence? It isn't you is it? Internet from prison?

Exact same phrase used by the bloke in the very sad ill fitting Matalan suit.
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pogofish

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

Certainly know of at least one person I studied with who had their degree withheld til they paid for their outstanding parking charges due to illegal parking. The law maybe wouldnt agree with it but that person didnt fancy losing a job offer whilst they fought through court for under a hundred quid.

Err, how can you park illegally on private Uni property?

Sorry, Bollox!