Parking fine at Mid-kent college

1984ReturnsForReal_2

pogofish wrote: »

To begin with, these are not fines. Neither the college nor UKPC has any power to fine anyone.

Then there is the little matter that courts won't uphold them as "debts" of any sort. So any institution involving themselves in this would be looking to get its fingers burned legally. Potentially quite badly.

And finally, the usual PPC deal is to offer the institution/client a "compensatory" payment for every recovered ticket only. So there is no issue of non-payment to the college involved at all.

Oh and I do have some experience of parking contractors and unenforcable interpretations of contract law at educational institutions.

YOU are completely MISSING THE POINT.

Tell me what the parking policy for the OPs college is for students?

Thought not.......

Oldernotwiser

I don't understand why you consider that you're the one to pay this charge. It was your daughter who took the car to college without finding out the situation about parking and it's she that's received this invoice.
Pass these replies on to her and stand back.

pogofish

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

I am sure they won't need to pay it, but, it will be a rather expensive lesson if they in turn refuse to issue her with whatever qualification she is studying for.

That won't happen. The ticket was issued by UKPC - not the college so there is no debt to them.

Also - this is not a fine and in this situation, the college is no different to a supermarket or any other private car park owner.

The only issue might be the permit - which may be issued directly by the college, so I suggested the op got that one clarified, which they did.

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

YOU are completely MISSING THE POINT.

Tell me what the parking policy for the OPs college is for students?

Thought not.......

UKPC are involved. They don't operate legally and the "penalties," follow-on charges and methods are invariably unreasonable, threatening and unenforcable. I don't see what any college policy may or may not have to do with this.

As I mentioned above, the only thing that possibly puts the OP's daughter in trouble with the college is the permit but that seems to have been sorted and paid to the college.

vikingaero

pogofish wrote: »

UKPC are involved. They don't operate legally and the "penalties," follow-on charges and methods are invariably unreasonable, threatening and unenforcable. I don't see what any college policy may or may not have to do with this.

As I mentioned above, the only thing that possibly puts the OP's daughter in trouble with the college is the permit but that seems to have been sorted and paid to the college.

Are you a robot Pogo?

1984 is asking whether you or the OP know what the consequences are at Mid Kent Collage for failure to pay parking fines. Some colleges will withhold degrees and diplomas if fines, whether it be parking, library fines etc are not paid. It doesn't matter on your legality drum and how much you bang it - colleges have withheld qualifications for non-payment.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

pogofish wrote: »

I don't see what any college policy may or may not have to do with this.

Thats my point.

You do see what the college has got to do with it.

That would depend on the agreement made between student & college. This would be written in a policy document given to each student & the conditions of the continuation of their education & any possible consequences will be written in it.

As for the withdrawel of a parking permit, do you know how much a year or twos parking around the OPs daughters' college will cost??

molerat

How can they legally withhold a qualification for money owed to / invoiced by a third party, does that include council tax, utility bills, SU fees ? Just a thought for the legal eagles.

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

That would depend on the agreement made between student & college. This would be written in a policy document given to each student & the conditions of the continuation of their education & any possible consequences will be written in it.

Which could only apply to any monies owed by the student to the college directly.

Non-debts to non-legal and predatory PPCs don't come into this.

pogofish

vikingaero wrote: »

1984 is asking whether you or the OP know what the consequences are at Mid Kent Collage for failure to pay parking fines. Some colleges will withhold degrees and diplomas if fines, whether it be parking, library fines etc are not paid. It doesn't matter on your legality drum and how much you bang it - colleges have withheld qualifications for non-payment.

They are not fines and they are not reasonable charges. They could not be considered debts by any measure.

Yes, for monies owed directly to the college but not for third party parking predators, no-way!

Surfer

This is an invoice and not a ticket and can safely be ignored, The college does nt have a leg to stand on and will never take it to court and cannot impose any restrictions whatsoever. Use it as toilet paper if you wish as it has not other use.