Parking fine at Mid-kent college

1984ReturnsForReal_2

You still dont get it do you.


Try substituting the words college & student for employer & employee.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

" Consequently, it is a University offence for a junior member to keep, hire or drive a car in Cambridge during Term without permission. A fine of £175 can be imposed by the University Motor Proctor on any offender. "



From Cambridge University Student Policy Handbook


Quite sure their are a few legal eagles there!





Some people.


Its like smashing your head against a brick wall.

THE STUDENT HAS OBLIGATIONS TO THE COLLEGE AS A CONDITION OF THEIR EDUCATION!

I would google some more but I really cant be bothered because if you havent got it by now there is NO hope for you.

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

You still dont get it do you.


Try substituting the words college & student for employer & employee.

Makes no difference whatsoever - Her contract is with the college not UKPC. :rolleyes:

1984ReturnsForReal_2

pogofish wrote: »

Makes no difference whatsoever - Her contract is with the college not UKPC. :rolleyes:

Pogofish.


You are being silly now.

You dont even know whats written in "the contract" (as you say).


You all gave bad advice in this instance.

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

" Consequently, it is a University offence for a junior member to keep, hire or drive a car in Cambridge during Term without permission. A fine of £175 can be imposed by the University Motor Proctor on any offender. "



From Cambridge University Student Policy Handbook


Quite sure their are a few legal eagles there!

Who would probably be horrified to read it.

Signed contract or not, that is quite unenforcable and if they tried to use it as a basis for witholding a degree, they would fall flat on their face at the first legal hurdle - namely that any charge imposed must be reasonable and proportional to the costs involved.

Which is always where these things fail.

Never mind that the mention of fines or offences are quite spurious - They simply don't have any legal meaning in the modern age.

Anyway, W.Kent College ain't Cambridge and you can't compare UKPC and their operation to a staff Proctor. :rolleyes:

pogofish

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Pogofish.


You are being silly now.

You dont even know whats written in "the contract" (as you say).


You all gave bad advice in this instance.

I've seen enough of these "contracts" in all the years I worked in higher education BTW. And I'm well aware of just how limited they are in real world application. A scare/delaying tactic at best, to see that the student settles their basic accounts before graduation.

Nope, you demonstrated yourself to be a flaming ignoramus the moment you blazed-in here talking about "fines" etc. :rolleyes:

vikingaero

I think the reason MK College have a permit system is to prevent abuse of the parking facilities by London coach commuters.

oldone_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Pogofish.


You are being silly now.

You dont even know whats written in "the contract" (as you say).


You all gave bad advice in this instance.

I would stop now before you are in so deep you can't get out.

In simple terms, a ticket from a PPC is a civil debt, and to be enforced they must show that a contract was formed between them and the motorist.If they can establish this, they cannot charge a fee so high it is considered a penalty, but only enough to cover their losses. In the case of the O.P a permit was subsequently purchased, so any loss is restricted to one days parking. Additionally, the PPC must serve their invoice on the driver and not the registered keeper, who may not necessarily be the same person.

The PPC must also show that they have authority from the landowner,the college, to issue parking charge notices.It is suprising how often they do not have this permission.

The college cannot penalise the student if they do not pay this PPC charge, in the same way they cannot penalise if the student owes money to a third party as a civil debt. Any conditions in the college handbook that conflict with this are unenforceable in law.

In the case of the O.P. if,as they should, do not pay this parking charge and the college withold a degree, this can be challenged in a court of law as an unfair contract, and would result in a victory.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

pogofish wrote: »

Anyway, W.Kent College ain't Cambridge

There you go again having an opinion with no facts.

Go google some more. I suppose Christs' College isnt Cambridge University either??


:rotfl:


Keep trying.

You might get it in the end.

Who issues the parking permit & what are the costs of a years parking in a pay & display half a mile away?

Without knowing whats in the policy document you know NOTHING.

ZILCH.

Your advice on this occassion is worth absolutley zero at this . (*)particular point in time.


. (*) <<<<<<<<<<<< this point here


However, like I said, once the OP has checked out facts your advice may come in handy.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

oldone wrote: »

I would stop now before you are in so deep you can't get out.

Who said anything about the college enforcing 3rd party debt?

It certainly wasnt me.

They do however have the right to enforce their own parking policy on students & their own employees.