A new start for Mooloo

Savvy_sewing

shaz_mum_of__2 wrote: »

Don't worry too much about this situation with DS but do report the theft of hispossesions, moped and documents , no matter her right to the money he may or may not owe her , She has no right to seize his goods without a court order you could ask a local police to accompany you and ds to collect his belongings. i would advise DS not to offer to pay any money as this is an admission of the debt which i think given his age is un enforceable (not sure though). Hopefully DS has learned a valuable lesson though.......

Sounds like this woman is a piece of work best let the authorities deal with it all .

Hope you are physically feeling better and getting some relaxation , Any news on re housing you?

I think that I did tell DS not to admit, or offer any money, but I think its probably stored on the chat in the Facebook stuff, I am not sure how that works to be honest. Dont really like that site much.
I think that he is like me, in that he doesnt like owing anyone, and that he is basically honest and doesnt like scenes.
I was tempted to call the police when we were there, but then I thought that it was not really the boyfriends fault, he was just under her orders and i didnt want to upset the applecart and make things nasty.
But I think that we may have to see the citizens advice and see what they say. Meanwhile I think that we have to sort out the council and see why they didnt give DS any housing benefit after the first payment, and also get DS to understand he needs to register for jobseekers, or what ever it is to get an income. I would prefer if he would go back to college and get some EMA, then I think I would also want him to come home instead of stopping at his sisters. But we are overcrowded, and out in the sticks so thats why he doesnt want to live here anymore.

There hasnt been any news about housing, except that we are 18th on the list for a place in towcester so realistically we are not going to get it. That it will more than likely be another village, and that we are "waiting for the "hatched, matched and dispatched" column in the paper for a vacancy! So who knows how long its going to be?

Errata

shaz_mum_of__2 wrote: »

Don't worry too much about this situation with DS but do report the theft of hispossesions, moped and documents , no matter her right to the money he may or may not owe her , She has no right to seize his goods without a court order you could ask a local police to accompany you and ds to collect his belongings. i would advise DS not to offer to pay any money as this is an admission of the debt which i think given his age is un enforceable (not sure though). Hopefully DS has learned a valuable lesson though.......

Sounds like this woman is a piece of work best let the authorities deal with it all .

Hope you are physically feeling better and getting some relaxation , Any news on re housing you?

Have to say I agree with Shaz. In Mooloo's shoes I would contact the police immediately and ask for their help. DS is still a minor and has been taken advantage of by Mrs Fagin.

Savvy_sewing

Errata wrote: »

Have to say I agree with Shaz. In Mooloo's shoes I would contact the police immediately and ask for their help. DS is still a minor and has been taken advantage of by Mrs Fagin.

I will leave it today, and wait until the bank holiday is over, as its only a minor thing, then will speak to the citizens advice first. (If I can get through). I would rather write the woman a letter, warning her that if she doesnt let DS have his possessions back, then we will have no alternative but to involve the authorities, police, council etc. But I need to check the wording would be legal if I did it. So I am going to be as careful as I can, before I act.
But am so tempted to get the police to her door, (my evil twin too), but then I feel I would be lowering myself to her standards and I didnt want to do that.
She doesnt know where we live, can only contact DS on Facebook, or me through my mobile. So I have the options not to reply to her, and DS can block her from Facebook.
She will probably have to go and whistle for her money.
I am sure that even though she has got the paperwork for the bike (she was supposed to have been selling it for DS, to raise some money apparantly), she is not the legal owner, and therefore it will constitute theft if she doesnt return it. So we could possibly contact the insurance company, however I dont remember the policy documents. I will have to see if I have any references in my emails as I am sure we got the policy on line.

I am not feeling as bad as I was as I upped my medication again, however now I am feeling a little spaced out, and so finding it quite hard to think at the moment.

DGD didnt go down for her sleep, and so I am not going to get the rest I wanted. her Mum is asleep at the moment, so I will have to consider waking her (she went back for a lie down when we put DGD for her sleep, but Mum is sleeping and DGD is not).

Havent heard anything from twin2 yet. Not sure if she did get back or not. Perhaps I will ring DS and see. Dont want to ring her myself, as she was not talking to me, and I dont want any confrontations today. I do not feel up to it at all.

Eager_Elephant

Hi Moo

Thought I might chip in regarding DS.

I do believe that the rent is enforceable, age does not really come into it. A verbal agreement is enough to make a contract and the fact he applied for Housing Benefit shows that he accepted this.

What he needs to do is contact Housing Benefit and provide the information they needed and request a reconsideration of the decision of whatever date not to award Housing Benefit and then he needs to beg and plead regarding why he missed the deadline.
Possibly things like he is young, not claimed benefits before, did not understand the letters, did not have the info and did not realise the importance of it. etc.

I don't think anyone should pay the 'landlady' yet because if HB can get sorted out then she will have had the money twice and she is not likely to give any money back is she.

If the information he needed was proof of income but he did not sign on then copies of his bank statements to prove no income and a letter from someone who may have helped him out with money is acceptable.

Let me know if you or DS need any help with anything to do with HB.

EE

Savvy_sewing

Eager_Elephant wrote: »

Hi Moo

Thought I might chip in regarding DS.

I do believe that the rent is enforceable, age does not really come into it. A verbal agreement is enough to make a contract and the fact he applied for Housing Benefit shows that he accepted this.

What he needs to do is contact Housing Benefit and provide the information they needed and request a reconsideration of the decision of whatever date not to award Housing Benefit and then he needs to beg and plead regarding why he missed the deadline.
Possibly things like he is young, not claimed benefits before, did not understand the letters, did not have the info and did not realise the importance of it. etc.

I don't think anyone should pay the 'landlady' yet because if HB can get sorted out then she will have had the money twice and she is not likely to give any money back is she.

If the information he needed was proof of income but he did not sign on then copies of his bank statements to prove no income and a letter from someone who may have helped him out with money is acceptable.

Let me know if you or DS need any help with anything to do with HB.

EE

I thought that could be the case.
I have to go now, to take Twin1 back to her house.
(need to get dressed as I have been sitting on the computer for about 3 hours still in my dressinggown!!!eeek. Where did the time go?

Savvy_sewing

Well I am home. I am not very happy.
I dropped Twin1 at her place to leave her stuff, then took her around to twin2's. twin2 is back from her jaunt in Wales. however she would not let me go in. So DGD and I came straight back home. I was upset. I know I should not have been, but it is gutting after all I have done for her over the years, and the things that I have sacrificed, etc etc and she would not even extend an open hand and talk to me.
I am afraid that I was upset and told twin1 to tell her, that "She had her chance and that if she was not willing to speak to me, then I would cut her out of my life" And drove off. Which was an awful thing to say. And part of me is regretting it, and the other part of me, is just so exasperated with her that I think I may have no other option.
My BF has said that it was "time I looked after number one (and a half)".
He may be right.
Your all right, I am too soft. I do forgive them too easily, and I am running myself into the ground financially and emotionally trying to sort things out for them all.
But how do I change my nature? Its a tough one.
It didnt help that today I am feeling low and tired, and have been lurking on the edges of the depression for a while now.
Everything just seems to be getting to me these days, and my patience seems to have been lost.

Errata

Eager_Elephant wrote: »

Hi Moo

Thought I might chip in regarding DS.

I do believe that the rent is enforceable, age does not really come into it. A verbal agreement is enough to make a contract and the fact he applied for Housing Benefit shows that he accepted this.

What he needs to do is contact Housing Benefit and provide the information they needed and request a reconsideration of the decision of whatever date not to award Housing Benefit and then he needs to beg and plead regarding why he missed the deadline.
Possibly things like he is young, not claimed benefits before, did not understand the letters, did not have the info and did not realise the importance of it. etc.

I don't think anyone should pay the 'landlady' yet because if HB can get sorted out then she will have had the money twice and she is not likely to give any money back is she.

If the information he needed was proof of income but he did not sign on then copies of his bank statements to prove no income and a letter from someone who may have helped him out with money is acceptable.

Let me know if you or DS need any help with anything to do with HB.

EE

I thought that HB was only paid to under 25's to cover the rent of a room/bedsit. DS was sharing a room with another teenager. Have I misunderstood ?

Savvy_sewing

Errata wrote: »

I thought that HB was only paid to under 25's to cover the rent of a room/bedsit. DS was sharing a room with another teenager. Have I misunderstood ?

Yes he was sharing a room with her son. Thats why I cannot see how she could charge him so much, and that she was pulling a blinder on the council, and getting my son envolved in it!.

Errata

So - it looks like she may have encouraged him to commit benefit fraud, and is refusing to give him his belongings. CAB won't sort that little lot out for you, but the HB office and the police will. Don't forget, he's a minor and will be treated and supported as such.

Savvy_sewing

Errata wrote: »

So - it looks like she may have encouraged him to commit benefit fraud, and is refusing to give him his belongings. CAB won't sort that little lot out for you, but the HB office and the police will. Don't forget, he's a minor and will be treated and supported as such.

I think that I will have to go along to the council back in Oxford and ask them to look into it all. But I fear that DS will get into trouble with the police and I dont want that, after the mess he got into the year before down there. What a pickle.