To those selling in these difficult times Part Deux. AKA sellers support network!

Orpheo

azkaban420 wrote: »

Agree and appreciate this, however, you had reasons to pull out at the last minute, fair enough, it is a massive decision/transaction. But I feel, pulling out without giving the seller any reason is just rude. At least if the reasons are related to something personal to the buyer, the seller can assume it's not their house. If the reasons are due to the house, the seller can take this on board and try to make amendments (whether to the house or to the price). I don't even cancel appointments without giving a valid reason, so I find pulling out of a house without reason very high up there on the scales of rudeness and inconsideration. Common courtesy goes a long way in my opinion.

Az

I completely agree that courtesy requires that you should give a reason why you are withdrawing from the purchase. Fortunately we don't legislate for courtesy.

I know folks still pull out after exchange, but then the seller does have legal recourse. Folks willingly pulling out after exchange must have one heck of a reason. If you're unsure, like so many things, it is best to pull out before things get messy .

not_loaded

Orpheo wrote: »

…Your buyer will have also incurred financial expence, I assume they have paid for a survey and also their solicitor will still charge them for work done up until they pulled out. I know, I pulled out of the purchase of a property and in all it cost me about £800. My reasons for pulling out of the purchase were due to survey issues, but had I decided, at a whim, to pull out of the purchase at the last minute for no apparent reason, then that is my right and it is the risk that you take…

Such a pity that the £800 doesn’t go to the person whose time and money you’ve wasted.

Whim (n)
1) A sudden fancy; idle and passing notion; capricious idea or desire.
2) Arbitrary thought or impulse.

Orpheo wrote: »

I completely agree that courtesy requires that you should give a reason why you are withdrawing from the purchase. Fortunately we don't legislate for courtesy…

The word ‘fortunately’ says it all for you really…

Orpheo

not_loaded wrote: »

Such a pity that the £800 doesn’t go to the person whose time and money you’ve wasted.

My time and money was wasted in discovering that the kitchen extension was a cowboy build and would have needed completely rebuilding. Had this information been available to me up front then I would never have made an offer. Are you suggesting that I should have billed the vendor for £800?

not_loaded wrote: »

Whim (n)
1) A sudden fancy; idle and passing notion; capricious idea or desire.
2) Arbitrary thought or impulse.

So. You can use google and cut and paste. Now you have found what "whim" means and I stand by my comments. I owe you no explanation as to why I have withdrawn, legally, from the arrangement. As it happens I gave a full and detailed explanation to the vendors, including a copy of the survey.

not_loaded wrote: »

The word ‘fortunately’ says it all for you really…

Not sure that I understand what you mean. Unless you think that we should legislate for courtesy? If so, what else should we legislate for? I once had an acquaintance who took offense at sentences beginning with adverbs.

PottyHouse_2

tyllwyd wrote: »

That is really tough for anyone to cope with - you have loads of sympathy from me! I think if it was me, I'd get some paint and redecorate one of the rooms - not for any scientific reason, just because I wanted to change something and that's the easiest thing to do.

Good luck, things are at a really low ebb right now but they could still change.

Hi Tyllwyd - thanks for your advice.

I was actually thinking of painting my eldest son's room - it is nursery yellow and he wanted space blue and because we thought we were moving before Christmas we just put it off and put it off and I think thats why I'm feeling upset and a bit guilty as we are not living our lives as we should be and putting things off "just in case" !! There are boxes of toys and books in the garage too that have been there since December and I'm thinking of dragging them all out to see if they have outgrown any of them.

There are things we can see need doing around the house and its so hard thinking whether to spend money on them or not as you will have probably seen we have spent out £1700 so far (valuations, fees, HIP etc!) and we are not "rolling in it" by any means !!!!

Saying all that I think we could stretch to a tin of paint !!!!

P.S Feeling a little more positive today - thank you !

PottyHouse_2

azkaban420 wrote: »

Hi PottyHouse, I really feel for you, it is agony just waiting for my one buyer to proceed to exchange and for you to have it all and it dropping several times is beyond a joke. I personally would also try to stick with it...the fact that you've had four buyers interested means the house is sell-able, it's just unfortunate that the sale has dropped for whatever reason. Don't put your life on hold for anticipated viewings etc, do what you need to do and let the viewings fall around your committments (I know it's easier said than done!)

As I say with many things, ultimately it is your decision, and if you feel it is straining your relationship, then maybe a break from the whole selling game will do you well. Take some time 'off' selling, re-gather your thoughts and put it on a few months down the line if that feels like a more suitable option to you?

Good luck whatever you decide...it's awful when trying to sell a house starts taking over our lives

Az

Thanks Az,

We have actually given ourselves a timescale - if nothing has happened, we have not accepted a firm offer or chain not resurrected by early September - thats it, house off the market.

We cannot have another miserable Christmas wondering whether we are going to move or not and not being able to relax (we were due to exchange before last Christmas before the Stamp Duty Holiday ended - remember that one !!).

I have promised myself we will get a fireplace (one for Santa to come down as I tell my boys) and said to my OH it doesn't have to cost a lot and will add to saleability sometime next year ... I hope !!

We were looking forward to being in new home with bigger garden and as we are in the throws of Summer now with the big holidays looming doesnt look like we are going anywhere just yet .... so I am now wishing my life away looking forward to the bad weather and Christmas ... sad isn't it .... I readily admit it.

Is anyone else completely obsessed with this house mullarkey????

Thanks Azkaban

PottyHouse_2

Hi all,

Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

So we currently have an offer on our property - very close to EofC but Buyer has redundancy notice being served and so currently we cannot proceed.

All the legal stuff done, Fixtures & fittings etc - if we wanted to make changes / decorate our OWN house how does that stand with the proposed Buyer do we have to advise them we want to paint a wall for example ??? - I suppose legally its still our house and we can do what the heck we want - would you be of the opinion to let the EA know to pass the information on so they don't get their knickers in a twist ???

Interesting one, be good to see what you all think.

Orpheo

PottyHouse wrote: »

Hi all,

Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this.

So we currently have an offer on our property - very close to EofC but Buyer has redundancy notice being served and so currently we cannot proceed.

All the legal stuff done, Fixtures & fittings etc - if we wanted to make changes / decorate our OWN house how does that stand with the proposed Buyer do we have to advise them we want to paint a wall for example ??? - I suppose legally its still our house and we can do what the heck we want - would you be of the opinion to let the EA know to pass the information on so they don't get their knickers in a twist ???

Interesting one, be good to see what you all think.

It is still your house. You are entitled to decorate it as you please. On the subject of courtesy, it would be courteous to inform the buyer.

monkeys_bunny

its still your house so you can do as you please, but if yu have a buyer etc why do you want to? just out of interest?

PottyHouse_2

monkeys_bunny wrote: »

its still your house so you can do as you please, but if yu have a buyer etc why do you want to? just out of interest?

Hi monkeys bunny, I know you have been v.busy tying the knot etc - Congratulations !!!!

To cut a long story short we were waiting for exchange of contracts to be told by EA (who is acting for us and our Buyer) that our Buyer is at risk of being made redundant ...... we went back on the market as we do not know the timescale of the whole process (phone interview, proper interview if that sucessful etc etc etc) and even if he will end up with a job at the end of it (his OH is a SAHM Stay at Home Mum so affordability is the issue).

That was over 2 weeks ago and we have just heard today apparently he got through the phone interview - not sure how much longer its going to take - hoping for some clarification soon !!!!

The house we were buying was no chain at the top, they were going into rented and we think they put down deposits etc to reserve a house so they are pretty disappointed too - needless to say they are back on the market so as time goes on we are concerned we will loose the house we have so desperately been after for the last 16 months or so.

Wasn't a short story after all was it - sorry !!!!!

sonastin

Aaaaaaaargh - the vendor of the house I want to buy has rejected my offer. And accepted the fact that she can't get what she wants for it in the current market so she's taking it off the market.

I've told the EA that I am willing to pay what she's wanting (even though it is over the odds) because there isn't a lot out there that ticks our boxes but now I'm worried that she's decided to take it off the market totally. And she's overseas so there is always a massive delay getting responses out of her.

Oh I wish this whole process could be simplified in some way. Its bad enough that you're committing to spending hundreds of thousands of pounds without the complexities of the English legal system making things even harder!