Parents organising students lives

Stubert

andyrules wrote: »

Yes, agree. It is strange that at 16 many have EMA (to spend as they please - most I know don't contribute to the leccy bill or Tesco food shop:rolleyes:), yet at 18 they have to rely on parental handouts. Unless they they go and get a job.

EMA is based on parents income though much like the student loans/grants thing is so its proportionate.

Lokolo

andyrules wrote: »

Yes, agree. It is strange that at 16 many have EMA (to spend as they please - most I know don't contribute to the leccy bill or Tesco food shop:rolleyes:), yet at 18 they have to rely on parental handouts. Unless they they go and get a job.

I got my first job at 15. I got EMA and another job at 17.....

Oldernotwiser

andyrules wrote: »

Yes, agree. It is strange that at 16 many have EMA (to spend as they please - most I know don't contribute to the leccy bill or Tesco food shop:rolleyes:), yet at 18 they have to rely on parental handouts. Unless they they go and get a job.

Plenty of people don't have to rely on their parents helping financially; only those who come from better off families.

Lokolo

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Plenty of people don't have to rely on their parents helping financially; only those who come from better off families.

Yeh but don't let that influence you in that parents do everything for them! I sure don't, hell I spend most of my time on here trying to help people lol.

noelphobic

andyrules wrote: »

Yes, agree. It is strange that at 16 many have EMA (to spend as they please - most I know don't contribute to the leccy bill or Tesco food shop:rolleyes:), yet at 18 they have to rely on parental handouts. Unless they they go and get a job.

My son got EMA at school and he now gets a grant, as my income is considered too low for me to be expected to contribute to his living expenses - I do still help him out from time to time though.

noelphobic

mumps wrote: »

For the people who graduated a while ago i would just like to remind them that this year student will be paying over £3000 in tuition fees, I think its something round £3,245, this is before they think about eating, accommodation, buying anything they need for their course, travel, socialising etc. This is why parents get more involved now, with my first child at uni, who got a grant and no fees, I just let him get on with it, figured if he made mistakes he would learn. You just can't afford to do that now, you are looking at needing about £9,000 a year by my reckoning, for fees, food, accommodation etc. If they mess up it is one hell of a mess, this is why more parents get involved now because we fund alot of this money.

Oh I forgot job situation, when son was at uni he never had a problem with getting holiday work or work during term time but it is difficult at the moment. My daughter is lucky as she has a job waiting for her for the summer but she didn't manage to get a job at university, probably also depends where you are studying.

I visited some universities with her, some she went to buy herself, one she went to with friends. She went to all interviews herself. I thought taking an interest was normal. Obviously it was her decision, in fact she didn't go to the university I liked best, but that was her choice.

My son will be graduating this year and I think he probably owes about £20k. He wants to go back in 2010 and do a Masters!

andyrules

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Plenty of people don't have to rely on their parents helping financially; only those who come from better off families.

Depending in which cohort they fall

I believe the criteria has now changed considerably.

whitfreak

I have mixed views on this, but I think it depends on the relationship between parent and (potential) student. If the student is asking their parent(s) advice/opinion/help on something then they should give it, and as such should be free to do research and ask for help themselves. If the student is a lazy !!!! then the parent shouldnt be doing it for them.

Parents at open days fine, parents at interviews no. Although places like Bath do both at the same time making things awkward. However, parents should still take a back seat in these things, just making sure nothing major is missed. Once at univeristy then students should be independant. Parents, provide advice when asked, and take an interest in whats happening in there lives, and by all means nag if they still havent got insurance (or something). But the student/child should do everything.

(and theres enough grade inflation and other !!!!!!!! happening at unis these days without overbearing parents making things worse.)

andyrules

Lokolo wrote: »

I got my first job at 15. I got EMA and another job at 17.....

at least you bother! Did you give your EMA to your mum?

Lokolo

andyrules wrote: »

at least you bother! Did you give your EMA to your mum?

No.... she wouldn't take it if I even tried. She still tries to pay for my dentist and I don't even live at home anymore!