Windows 7 Slow?

almillar

I'd say there are a few Mac Pro users who use their machines in music studios or for CAD or DTP who would not be happy with a £600 PC, but I don't think we'll ever convince asininity.
I'd also imagine that Windows users are surprised the first time they go to watch a DVD and can't. Or have to activate Windows.
Not to mention that running OSX on PC is definately not for mainstream users, not as good an experience as a real Mac, and probably not legal...
Apple is one computer company and I know that I see far more Dell adverts on the TV, with the usual selling point being 'they're cheap'. Tesco isn't a very good comparison. People generally do want to just pick up a cheap can of beans, but should think a bit harder about computers...

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almillar wrote: »

I'd also imagine that Windows users are surprised the first time they go to watch a DVD and can't. Or have to activate Windows.

Windows Media Player plays DVD's in Vista with no problems, and large OEM's will preactivate Windows.

almillar

I was talking about XP, currently the version that most people have, which people still seem to want more than it's replacement.

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almillar wrote: »

I was talking about XP, currently the version that most people have, which people still seem to want more than it's replacement.

The amount of home PC's sold with XP on now compared to Vista must be tiny, which really makes that a moot point.

RobTang

The OEMs will usually install a MPEG 2 Decoder tho, I cant remember the last time I saw a computer ship with a dvd drive and didn't come with a copy of power dvd or similar.

and if you're self installing you should really know about it anyway, and every dvd drive ive bought comes with power dvd etc etc.

Knub

Windows 7 has so far proven to be one of the best RC's that Microsoft have brought out in my experience. The main clue being in the "RC" acronym; it stands for "Realease Candidate" as in, its not the final version.

So far the key changes are in the OS Shell; Graphical, Boot, Kernel and multicore performance improvements amongst other things.

It's quicker on testing that I have seen so far. To the Original Poster; try wiping your system and performing a clean install of the newest RC. Chances are you might have just had a bad installation, as in my experience, it is a lot quicker on machines where Vista wasn't able to cope due to it being a complete resource hog, which has only been addressed since SP1/2.

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

What argument?

When Apple Stores open, Apple sales go up. There's nothing to stop anyone in the UK from buying an Apple computer no matter where they live.

But, when they can actually try them out, Apple sell more.

Same with tescos, b&q, currys, etc.

Right, so people who buy Macs are posers who supposedly do it to look good. Yet, you also decry the fact that "Macheads" as you so eloquently put it, are forever trying to get people to buy Apple computers.

These don't seem to be two entirely contrary notions?

No their not, its a bit like the christian/islam religions - all of them pose and all of them want to convert people to their way of thinking.

I guess a poser who bought a flashy sports car would be absolutely delighted if everyone in the same street bought one would he?

No, of course he wouldn't. Yet Macs owners are forever harping on about Macs until people want to beat their heads in with their Microsoft ergonomic keyboards.

Wouldn't the above be your opinion, but wait weren't you just moaning about my opinion? I get it your opinion counts and no one else's. Of course this might make sense if your comment above this one was actually contradictory.

You caught me doing what?

I could quote it if you want but basically using half a story to justify your response.

Is it so entirely unbelievable to you that they are actually very good computers?

No I've already said they make good computers, I'd like one too, maybe in the future when I get my annual pay rise.

That "limitation" is a design choice.

In that case shouldn't really slate M$ for having compatibility issues when they cater for something apple doesn't, probably cant. If M$ stated manufacturing computer specifically designed to run their OS I'm sure is would be as stable as OSX for that platform.

Of course they are more expensive that the "average" PC, but that's because the average PC is dirt cheap. You can buy more expensive computers than Apple's from just about every major computer manufacturer.

As far a specs similar priced PCs offer more powerful computing.

No, not at all.

But I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that there are millions of PC users in this country who would be happier using Mac OS X, or Linux, than they are using Windows. That's why I always recommend people check out the alternatives. It's not as though Windows is so absolutely wonderful that there's no reason anyone would ever want to use something else.

No argument!

Simon_B_2

How well does Windows 7 make use of quad core architecture, as I've heard this is not always fully utilised by Vista or XP?

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Simon_B wrote: »

How well does Windows 7 make use of quad core architecture, as I've heard this is not always fully utilised by Vista or XP?

It's more a case of programs being written to take advantage of multiple cores, which relatively few do at the moment. Using cores for the sake of it isn't the way to approach it, there's got to be a big shift in software developers to use them effectively.

asininity

almillar wrote: »

I'd say there are a few Mac Pro users who use their machines in music studios or for CAD or DTP who would not be happy with a £600 PC, but I don't think we'll ever convince asininity.

Not that hard to convince really as the above makes sense. If your processing music using CAD etc, and wanted to use a PC you'd not buy a £600 PC either. What you getting at?

I'd also imagine that Windows users are surprised the first time they go to watch a DVD and can't. Or have to activate Windows.

The reason you had to activate windows had a lot to do with how you got it, which also has a lot to do with being able to buy it separately from the hardware.

Not to mention that running OSX on PC is definately not for mainstream users, not as good an experience as a real Mac, and probably not legal...
Apple is one computer company and I know that I see far more Dell adverts on the TV, with the usual selling point being 'they're cheap'. Tesco isn't a very good comparison. People generally do want to just pick up a cheap can of beans, but should think a bit harder about computers...

Really? Have you seen most of the people in PC World? How do you think they can get away with employing people who know next to nothing about computers? Mainly because people just want to pick up a cheap computer and know nothing about them themselves.