The giving up/cutting down alcohol support thread! Part 3

nettttie

eselt wrote: »

I'm sorry to disagree, all humans need and deserve dignity, and I personally don't describe anyone as an 'alcoholic bum'- nor anyone as 'classless'. I am really, really angry that you think that an alcoholic 'seeks solace with a class he wouldn't have thought that one time he would do', if this thread teaches us anything its that there but for the grace of god go all of us-what kind of class do you think alcoholics belong too? -the answer to that is all- and if you look at a lot of the people who hit material rock bottom eg. street drinkers, they are young people out of care, abused young people without a safe place to go, ex-soldiers, divorced men and women, people who have fallen on genuine hard times etc. So those of us who have found themselves in this situation don't percieve themselves as classless or as 'bums', we just happen to live in a society whereby the moral highground is taken by others who feel comfortable with stereotypes and we have no power to change this situation.

Basically, drunks are drunks, whether your dining table is from IKEA or you live as a homeless person in a hostel. Its just some of us are able to be drunks in a more pleasant environment.

have thanked you in this post as I agree with you - however I think you're missing my point, maybe I'm not good at explaining! Am trying to say that it doesn't matter what your background is - its irrelevant! alcohol doesn't chose ppl from certain classes it doesnt care! I work heavily in mental health so am aware of the difficulties many ppl have found themselves in through no fault of their own (am shocked how many dont drink tbh). that is what i mean that a drunk is a drunk! Maybe a chose the wrong word when i said seeks solace with a class so sorry for making you so angry.

Well I'm feeling great for not drinking again, and am going into town to treat my kids. Sunday is always my worse day but am feeling strong.

thanks to all for helping my weekend.

nettttie

eselt wrote: »

Whoops, just reread this and its a bit of a rant (even by my standards)- sorry Nettie, please don't think I was ranting at you, I was tired and I should have thought more carefully about what I posted- I wouldn't dream of upsetting anyone on here, you are all too nice.

thanks i replied before i read this, no offence taken as you can see, but hopefully things are clearer! sometimes its difficult to read between the lines on a pc but we are all here for the same reason {{hugs}}

PRICE_IS_RIGHT_2

I am SO ANNOYED with myself. Had the Saturday night wine treat. But couldn't stop. Must have had about 1.6 bottles at least. I thought my children weren't aware, but my 13 year old has just told me she and my 15 year old saw me sitting in the kitchen, eyes half closed, drinking a glass of wine at about midnight, and they told me I was really drunk. I have been so good at sticking to my target, and achieved my 24 days last month. This is completely ridiculous. I know I've got loads of excuses, the stress of the exams going on and I've been working and working with hardly any time off. I've just got to change this Sat night thing. Sorry to rant. I just feel that posting this might help me? And I've got a rotten hangover, after feeling so well all week.

RecoveringAlcoholic

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PRICE_IS_RIGHT_2

Yes I know. But what a terrible example to give to my children.

jo1972

Awww ((((PIR)))), mate we have ALL been there, numerous times infact!

The fact that your children have 'caught' you makes you feel worse, I know in my case it's the fact that I always have denial about my drinking and being caught means that I can't argue the odds about it, I usually like to justify or deny the amount I drink and hate being caught because the evidence is there :rotfl:

Use this rotten feeling this morning to move on to an AFD tonight, there is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol if you can control it, I can't so can't do it. You need to decide if you can or not. If you want to be a cutter-downer, I think you need to make sure you have only 1 bottle in the house, if you have panics about this then you need to look at the situation again.

I hope the fog clears hunny, I don't envy you today. Look forward to a good nights sleep tonight and going back to the un-hung-over'ed feeling you've been having all week

xx

PRICE_IS_RIGHT_2

Ta, Jo. You're doing really well. I've been feeling really, really good recently. I have to set a good example to my children. It's OK if Mr PIR overdoes it, he's a bloke, but they really look to me as an example. I'd love to say that's it, no more alcohol at all, but I know by Saturday i'll be craving. I'm collecting DD3 from a concert next Sat night though, so maybe I'll be able to manage another AFD that day. If I could, I'd exceed my target of 26 days this month.

jo1972

Like I said, there is nothing at all wrong with a Saturday night drink, just only have the one bottle in if you know that if you have 2 you'll drink em!!

My OH went out on Friday night straight after work, said he'd only be a few hours :rolleyes: I went to bed at 11pm and he still wasnt in, couldn't be bothered to ring him because he'd probably be p!ssed and didn't want to listen to his drunken mumblings. I have no idea what time he got in, asked the insomniac neighbour, she didn't hear him either but was up till 3am.

Now the problem we've got here is......OH doesn't drink at home, or at least VERY rarely, probably once every 2 or 3 months and he'll only drink 1 or 2 bottles of cider, usually when a big footie match is on (and considering he supports Spurs, that don't happen to often unfortunately!). But, when he goes out with his mates, which used to be maybe once or twice a month, but now tending to be every 2 weeks on a Friday and occasionally it's a couple of consecutive Fridays, he goes out anything from 4pm and doesn't get home 12 hours later absolutely !!!!!! faced, the entire next day is spent in bed and he looks like death (like he did yesterday, he got out of bed at 2pm and laid on the sofa till I went to bed at midnight, didn't even have the energy to get dressed and come Tescos with me and he's a bit of a girl when it comes to food shopping, he loves it!).

Now, last year he had a blood test for summat, might have been his chorlesterol and it came back something dodgy on the liver results and doc advised him to cut down or stop drinking. Since I've had my tests last week, I know that the normal doctor wouldn't have sent him for that gamma wotsit I had so it must be the normal liver function test that came back abnormal, which (Eselt, help me here...), wouldn't this mean that the Gamma wotsit test must be bad if the liver is now affected???

I'm going to the docs this week, prob Mon or Tues and I think I need to speak to him about this and somehow find a way to get OH a blood test. I told him yesterday that he needs one as his liver results weren't good last year and he binge drinks and it needs to be tested but he said he didn't want one in case it's bad news.

Maybe I could tell him to go along and get his choresterol checked again, but mention to the doc (in secret) to probe him about his drinking and get a gamma test done? Would he do that??

Sorry rambling now and I really should be out of this chair and doing stuff!!

Speak to you all later, have a great Sunday :wave:

Pippilongstocking

PRICE_IS_RIGHT wrote: »

I am SO ANNOYED with myself. Had the Saturday night wine treat. But couldn't stop. Must have had about 1.6 bottles at least. I thought my children weren't aware, but my 13 year old has just told me she and my 15 year old saw me sitting in the kitchen, eyes half closed, drinking a glass of wine at about midnight, and they told me I was really drunk. I have been so good at sticking to my target, and achieved my 24 days last month. This is completely ridiculous. I know I've got loads of excuses, the stress of the exams going on and I've been working and working with hardly any time off. I've just got to change this Sat night thing. Sorry to rant. I just feel that posting this might help me? And I've got a rotten hangover, after feeling so well all week.

Morning all

PIR I think the others are right nowt wrong with a bottle of wine on a Sat night.

Sounds like your life is as full on as it can be and you need some time out -- hence hte wine on a Sat night - as a normal funcitoning adult thats ok - I was drunk after about a glass of wine on Friday night - DS (14) put a blanket over me and took himself off to bed. Agaiin it was about midnight and to be honest he isn't normally up at that time we were just watching something together (well i was watching my eyelids and he watched the dvd ) adults do need some non-kid time you know!

I felt terrible and he said to me Mum you are exhausted I am not surprised the wine really affected you and you fell asleep - no biggie - he added then its not like you do it every day - so don't feel bad.

Waves to the rest of you

Away for a catch up I am stuck inside working and its gorgeous outside :cool:

Pippilongstocking

Jo - hmmmm thats a bit of a quandry isnt it? No idea what to say except maybe talking to the doctor will help.