Car Scrappage Scheme

rs3100

Poolie wrote: »

Our Toyota Dealership asked me last week (happily too help them out so we get the car) for a copy of the V5 and MOT. They didn't mention the insurance as this is not a requirement for the scheme.

It wasn't when we produced the V5 and MOT last week either, but according to our dealer it is now, and they're having to go back retrospectively with customers who have already placed orders through the scheme.

gilbert_and_sullivan

The scrappers i've collected so far have had current and sometimes several months worth of road tax still in the window.
Whether this is because the owners can't be bothered to send it in or is non redeemable under the scheme?

As an aside, some remakably good cars going to crusher well before their time, and some that one would have to be suicidal to drive.

Inactive

rs3100 wrote: »

It wasn't when we produced the V5 and MOT last week either, but according to our dealer it is now, and they're having to go back retrospectively with customers who have already placed orders through the scheme.

It is all getting a bit farcical now, next thing they will be insisting on a full tank of fuel..
:rolleyes:

buglawton

See what Honest John has to say in today's Telegraph:

Daily Telegraph 30 May - Scrappage: more trouble than it's worth?

he must have been following this thread!

hethmar

Well I guess for the majority of people they will still be driving the scrap car and will have tax, MOT and insurance. But there are cases, like my OH who drives the car only occasionally despite having taxed MOTd and insured it for 23 years!!! (gilbert, it would break your heart, a classic convertible but it would cost too much to get back to scratch) use my car most of the time. It would in our case have been nice not to have to pay out for more tax and insurance at this time. But again, what I cant follow is, when they dont need a current MOT at even the time of order, why on earth are they demanding tax and insurance up to scrapping?

Madness:

Within hours the SMMT announced (on April 22) that the scheme was "good news for buyers" but insisted that cars qualifying for scrappage would need to be "taxed, insured and MoT'd" before being accepted. This stipulation was inconsistent with the terms and conditions being formally and informally issued by numerous Government departments at about the same period.
On May 13, the SMMT agreed with the Telegraph's conclusion that as no Government departments were requesting such paperwork, customers would not be obliged to provide it. In a scrappage feature in Telegraph Motoring on April 16, I wrote that MoTs are sometimes but not always required and that "the SMMT decided this week that neither insurance nor a current tax disc is needed". The Society didn't object to the wording.
But by May 26 the SMMT had changed its mind and insisted these documents are needed. "ANY vehicle being scrapped does need to have ALL THREE of the above," said the SMMT earlier this week. "If the MoT has expired within 14 days of the order for the new car being placed, it will still be accepted but the insurance and tax must still be valid."

rs3100

This was released by BERR yesterday - compare with the version on DirectGov:

The dealer will check that the vehicle being traded in and the new one being bought qualify under the scheme:-
OLD VEHICLE
* Passenger car or small van not exceeding 3.5 tonnes
* Registered in United Kingdom on or before 31 August 1999
* Currently registered with DVLA or DVA to the registered keeper making the application
* Current MOT test certificate
* has been registered to the customer continuously for 12 calendar months before the order date of the new vehicle
* has a UK address on the registration certificate (V5C)
* has a current MOT test certificate before the date of order for the new vehicle, or one that has expired no more than 14 days before the order for a new vehicle was placed
* is taxed and insured

NEW VEHICLE
* Passenger car or small van up to 3.5 tonnes
* First registered in the UK or after the date the scrappage scheme is launched and declared new at first registration in the UK with no former keepers
* UK specification vehicle
* Registered to the same registered keeper as the registered keeper of the eligible vehicle to be scrapped

hethmar

Yes that what my dealer is saying

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rs3100 wrote: »

This was released by BERR yesterday - compare with the version on DirectGov:

The dealer will check that the vehicle being traded in and the new one being bought qualify under the scheme:-
OLD VEHICLE
* Passenger car or small van not exceeding 3.5 tonnes
* Registered in United Kingdom on or before 31 August 1999
* Currently registered with DVLA or DVA to the registered keeper making the application
* Current MOT test certificate
* has been registered to the customer continuously for 12 calendar months before the order date of the new vehicle
* has a UK address on the registration certificate (V5C)
* has a current MOT test certificate before the date of order for the new vehicle, or one that has expired no more than 14 days before the order for a new vehicle was placed
* is taxed and insured

Next weeks additions ;

* Has a full main dealer service history.

* Has a full tank of fuel.

* Has had a full valet.

* Has a full HPI Check.

* Has no damage externally or internally.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

hethmar

Hey, just been to VWs home site and seen they have announced extra incentive on their new models in addition to the scrappage £2k. They are now saying £3250 off the model I want including scrappage.

Will I get that additional money off? We have paid a £200 deposit to the brokers dealer but havent signed and sent off the order yet?

buglawton

I think one of the reasons for the tight eligibility conditions is, govt knows this scheme has a small budget and doesn't want too many people taking it up too soon. The German one by contrast, even allows the purchase to be of an up to 1 year old vehicle, so long as it's a frugal/environmentally friendly one. I can immediately see that this means that the sellers of said 1 year olds will be off to the showrooms with their gains, for a newish vehicle too. Now that is a recession-busting scheme.