Car Scrappage Scheme

Stubbarama

I think the actual point is that if car manufacturors are struggling, why put up prices ? where are these stock piles.

buglawton

DealDrivers wrote: »

The government promise was that you would be able to get £2000 of the full published list price of a new car, the govt would supply £1k, the mfr to supply the other £1k....<snipped - see above for full post>

Just got to disagree... £2k to me means a new £2k that was not there before. If £9k was the typical discounted price of a certain motor before the scheme, and a real, genuine new £1k is coming from Govt, plus a real, genuine new £1k is coming from manfr, then the current Scrappage price to punter ought to be £7k pure and simple.

trumptonblue

flea72 wrote: »

no they havent increased prices to cover the scheme, its just the scheme has come into being, at roughly the same time of year that all manufacturers update their prices. June/July has always been when the new prices are published, ready for the new plate in September

Flea

As i mentioned in a previous post Hyundai's cheapest new car last September on a 58 plate was £5999. It's now £7200 (was £7095 before the last price rise on 1.7.09). What is the explanation for the extra price rise since last September other than scrappage?

flea72

trumptonblue wrote: »

As i mentioned in a previous post Hyundai's cheapest new car last September on a 58 plate was £5999. It's now £7200 (was £7095 before the last price rise on 1.7.09). What is the explanation for the extra price rise since last September other than scrappage?

i believe the Hyundai has been remodelled, so it could be that the manufacturing costs are higher, or they now have to recoup the money spent on remodelling (prices only come down on cars, once the set-up costs have been re-covered), or it could be due to fluctuations in currency, but for Hyundai, its mainly the fact that they have become popular and can increase their prices inline with other manufacturers who they previously had to undercut, because no-one wanted to buy a Hyundai

Flea

superhans

buglawton wrote: »

Just got to disagree... £2k to me means a new £2k that was not there before. If £9k was the typical discounted price of a certain motor before the scheme, and a real, genuine new £1k is coming from Govt, plus a real, genuine new £1k is coming from manfr, then the current Scrappage price to punter ought to be £7k pure and simple.

I agree I went into Volkswagen to get a Polo they matched the what car target price of £8949 instantly instead of RRP of £9610 saving £661 but as soon as I mentioned scrappage they said they only work from RRP so I would only save £1339, once the scrappage money has run out I doubt it will of kick started the motor industry and it will slip back into the doldrums again, I don't understand why the motor industry takes advantage of the olive branch they have been gifted, they may well learn when sales slide after scrappage has expired, I wouldn't be surprised if the government extend the offer.

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tiger5555 wrote: »

I have been very interested in the scrappage scheme as my car is 18 years old and was looking forward to a new car.But as i should have known there is a fundamental flaw in this scheme.
Firstly i contacted kia and peugeot as they had deals on their small cars.I was told yes i could have £1000 off the price with government scrappage but they would not give me the dealers £1000 off as they said they had already dropped the price.I stated "yes but you have dropped the price for everyone so i want the government £1000 and your £1000" but they would not have it.
Finally it is not compulsory for car companies to sign up to these schemes but when they do they enter into an agreement with the government that they also give £1000 off the price that joe public is getting.Seemingly not the case and i wonder where the law lies on this or if the government know that these car companies are relinquishing on their agreement.

I have had exactly the same experience and I got so frustrated with it I spoke to a policy adviser at the government scrappage team. Apparently the dealers shouldn't do this....but in my experience they do and it is widespread! A two tier pricing system most definitely applies in many dealerships. Advertised prices are often for non scrappage customers, with scrappage customers offered a higher price. Some even pretend that the government has said they are only allowed to take the scrappage amount off of rrp. But it is endemic, with no-one doing anything about it it seems. Taxpayers are funding this scheme, and I for one think there needs to be further scrutiny of how the scheme is actually being implemented in practice.

Inactive

flea72 wrote: »

no they havent increased prices to cover the scheme, its just the scheme has come into being, at roughly the same time of year that all manufacturers update their prices. June/July has always been when the new prices are published, ready for the new plate in September

Flea

Well I admire your faith in the motor industry, I stand by what I said, it is blatantly obvious that some car makers have been milking this for all it's worth, the same car makers that this was designed to help.

Perhaps the government should have insisted on day one, no price increases throughout the scheme period, if they wished to participate.

jesscollie

Many thanks for all the useful information. Appreciated...

jesscollie

Many thanks, appreciated!

jesscollie

Hi
Something like the Peugeot 107 1.0 Urban 3dr, VW Fox or the Kia. Regards, jess..