Support for people with Depression

Tiff_2

Hi shaz!
Make sure you grab something warm to drink and eat angel - keep your strength up.;)
Here are some relevant quotes from MIND, hunnie. A little bedtime reading if you will.
Remember, always double check me angel.

MIND wrote:

The Mental Health Act (2007)
The Mental Health Act (1983) had no lower age limits, and there were no specific provisions in the Act relating to children. In theory, therefore, children and young people could be treated or compulsorily detained under the Act. The new Mental Health Act (2007) made significant changes to the 1983 Act. Importantly with regard to young people, the act charges primary care trusts with a responsibility to provide 'age-appropriate' services for children. This includes guidelines for good practice around the hospital environment and the use of Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) in the assessment process. An overview of the Mental Health Act (2007) can be obtained from the Department of Health.

The National Service Framework for Children
Standard 9 of the National Service Framework - The mental health and psychological wellbeing of children and young people (2004) states that all children and young people, from birth until their eighteenth birthday, who are affected by mental health problems should have access to 'timely, integrated, high-quality, multidisciplinary mental health services' to ensure effective assessment, treatment and support, for them and their family. The full guidance can be obtained from the Department of Health.

Consent to treatment
Children under 16 years of age can receive medical treatment, including treatment for mental disorders, when a parent gives consent. If a child is in care, the local authority takes the parent's place. A child can give consent for their own treatment if they are deemed to be 'Gillick competent'; that is, they are considered to have sufficient understanding to make such a choice. A person over 16 years of age is considered to be an adult and can therefore make their own decisions about treatment.

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS)
The aim of CAMHS is to provide comprehensive multidisciplinary mental health services for children, young people and their families. There are two aspects to this. First, child and adolescent mental health is considered to be 'everybody's responsibility' - anyone who works with young people, not just those whose primary role is in mental health, has a responsibility for children's emotional health and wellbeing. Second, there are specialist services to provide mental health support. These services involve health professionals such as doctors and psychiatrists, child and adolescent psychotherapists, social workers, clinical psychologists and psychiatric nurses. More information can be obtained from: www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/health/camhs/
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MIND wrote:

If social services know that you may need services, however they were informed, they should offer to assess you without you having to ask.
Sometimes there are disagreements between the NHS and social services about which organization should assess your community care needs. It is important to note that the legal responsibility rests with social services. It is also important to remember that even if your GP or CMHT do not believe that your mental health needs are significant enough to require the CPA, you may still be entitled to an assessment of your community care needs under the NHS and Community Care Act 1990...It is the local authority in whose area you live that has the legal responsibility for assessing your community care needs.
What can I do if I disagree about my care services?
You can make a formal complaint to social services if you don’t agree with the result of your assessment, or if you have been waiting for one for an unreasonable length of time. Afterwards, if you are still not satisfied, you can take your complaint to the Care Quality Commission, and possibly after that to the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman if you believe it has not been handled fairly.

I hope this helps a bit hunnie. Back later I hope. Much Love,
Tiff xxx

beachbeth

Shaz, Im so sorry for the trouble you are having. It seems to me from reading your posts that you only have Ian on his terms and its all a bit one-sided. If someone loves you then they are there for the good times and the bad and not just when they feel like it. I am lucky in that my OH has supported me brilliantly whilst I have had depression and is always there for me. We also have good times too when Im not feeling so bad. I would be the same for him if he was suffering. That is what a relationship is all about.

Its easy for me to say this from the comfort of my own circumstances but I don't think Ian is the right person for you. He seems to behave as though all he has to do to keep you there when he wants you is to say "I love you". If he really loved you then he wouldn't ignore your calls or turn off his phone.

Sorry if Im speaking out of turn but I really think you deserve someone better and I hope at some point you find that someone special who gives as much as he takes.

I think Tiff gives excellent advice and I really would call the relevent professional bodies, as she says, and make sure you tell them the trouble you are having. It doesn't make you a failure as a mum in no way. Im surprised you cope as well as you do. Not many could deal with a situation like yours and still be sane. Please ask for the help you need. Hugs for you and all the best. ((())) xxxx

shazrobo

hi beachbeth, and tiff, thanks for all the advice,
been a long day here, and i'm tired, but quick idea of today went shopping with ian, as previously planned, told him how i felt, and agreed to stay friends, bought loads nice wool(my fav treat lol) had lunch, came back, and as i'd bought new kitchen table and chairs, he said he would assemle them for me. which he did. he let kids help, which kids enjoyed seeing him again, and behaved very well.
dont really know what went off in my head then, but as he was about to leave i ran upstairs, and started crying, my heart was breaking, anyhow ended up SH'ing. he came up and looked after me, cleaned me up etc, and gave me a hug which started off the tears again, so he stayed a bit longer and made sure i was ok. not quite sure where we arte now, but thats not my priority right now, i have to look after me, so then in turn i can look after the boys.
before ian came, i did ring camhs, and they have agreed to take over care of both sons, appointment in next week.
as far as gp concerned, wont do a home visit, said he'd contact crises team, they rang, and somebody seeing me tommorrow.
also rang social services, :mad: all i can say is i'm starting a letter of complaint, the way they have treated us is disgusting.
just had some weetabix as i havent been able to eat all day with the stress.
off to bed soon, josh got gp appointment at 7.30 am, hope he is some help, he's one of the good ones at our surgery.
big hugs
shaz xxx

Indie_Kid

This is getting annoying:
When I was self harming (2006-2007) the only thing that helped was to talk to a friend of mine - providing it was other stuff.

I emailed him om Tuesday and told him how I was feeling. He replied and said he'd try to help; but I need to understand (amongst other things) that his wife is having issues too and he needs to look after their son.

Last night, we had a quick chat on the phone, because I wanted to arrange something with him. I went around to his flat tonight and we talked about stuff for 4 hours. I am now back home and feel much better.

I now have a slight problem - how on earth do I stop relying on him to make me feel better?

shazrobo

morning all, hope everyone is ok. feeling a little bit more positive this morning. been to the gp with joshua, he is writing to cahms, AND also when asked he said he would support josh in applying for a blue badge, this is great news for me, as trying to struggle at the supermarket with the shopping and two big lads, who race back to car without stopping, they have been nearly hit by a car a few times, i dont have enough hands or strength to keep hold of them.
shaz xxx

shazrobo

the positie feeling didnt last long, feeling really low and nobody to turn to, really missing ian for a hug, but not for anything else, he never supported me emotionally.
so why oh why do i keep crying. trying my hardest not to text him, and leave it up to him, if he wants to try again in a relationship he has to be prepared to acceptt both good and bad in it.,

beachbeth

Sorry to hear you are feeling low, Shaz. I wish I was with you because I would give you a hug. Here is a virtual hug - :grouphug: Not the same, I know, but I hope it helps a little. Wish I could do more - just know that we all understand how you are feeling here and are sending positive vibes.

Indie_Kid

I have been feeling like crap for the last few days again. A few hallmates of mine have had a go at me for various things and then wonder why I'm in such a !!!!!! mood with them?

I am debating whether I should tell them what's really wrong. How do I do this please? When I originally told my friend, (he actually read it somewhere and then comfronted me about it) he seemed to not understand at all.

shazrobo

puginabed, i think with reducing your meds that it might have affected your moods, and it may well mean that you need to take them forever in order to stay ok. i'm not a doctor tho, so my best advice would be to see your gp.

sh1305, how well do u know these people, would you feel comfortable discussing mental health issues with them. i've found out through experiance, that the only people who truly understand are those that have suffered with depression themselves.

a friend of mine took me and the boys out today, went looking round the shops, and was lovely to be in company, feeling sad now i'm back home, and missing ian so much it hurts.
seeing my cpn tommorrow, hopefully she can do something to help, either increase my meds, or change them, cos i'm really not coping right now

hugs all
shaz xxx

beachbeth

shazrobo wrote: »

i've found out through experiance, that the only people who truly understand are those that have suffered with depression themselves.

I totally agree, Shaz. It doesn't matter how compassionate and caring someone is, they still have that "cheer up" or "pull yourself together" quality about them if they don't understand depression. They can mean well, but it isn't helpful.

I hope your cpn can help you tomorrow.