Support for people with Depression

Tiff_2

Hi rbk!
Hello angel, sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you - shame on me. Please believe me when I say that I have been thinking of you, as I do all my Tifflings, and I'm sending you some feel better soon wishes, hun.



I hope your stay with the inpatient clinic will give you all the support you deserve, hunnie and at least you've got all your professionals right to hand. Please make sure you tell them everything angel - even a small detail can make all the difference.

It may seem that sometimes we are just saying the same things over and over again to our medical teams but actually, we're not. We are actually telling them about our depression, that we've hit a really rough patch, that something has thrown us off kilter again. You are just explaining the symptoms of an illness that can flare up just like any other illness can, but in our cases, the illness is depression. And one of the symptoms we get is likely to be not wanting to, or not feeling strong enough, to ask for help. Remember guys, our old pal depression doesn't want us to get better! You must keep telling the professionals what's going on and keep them updated so that they might make any necessary adjustments. Don't ever worry about asking for help yet again, guys - no matter how many times you do it! You're just telling them that the balance isn't right yet. By asking for help, you're giving them - and yourself! - the chance to find that right balance.
It's good to know that at least you're safe, rbk and that you are somewhere that is looking after you, hunnie. We're here whenever you need us.
Be kind to yourself angel.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

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Hi Friends,

Beth, thanks for your posts -you mentioned the nature v nurture debate about depression.....

Very interesting and relevant article in The Times today:

"Depressed? Don't blame your genes"

Quote '...Some people blame their genes. For decades we have treated as common knowledge the existence of a depression gene. But one of the most interesting developments of last year was a growing conviction among scientists that genes play little or no role in depression.

The Human Genome Project, which mapped all our DNA, has not reliably identified a single example of a gene for any mental illness'.

The full article is here....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/mental_health/article6989751.ece

What do you all think?
Have the best Monday possible everyone, thinking of you all CB2X

shazrobo

are genes the same as dna , sorry if thats a thick question, but i genuinly don't know. what i do know is there was a study based on dna of idential twins, and mental health. we were part of that study as both my lads have mental health problems.
shaz x

Tulip

:hello: Everyone,

I am much better today,cleaned my flat all day mainly then this afternoon to drs and now relaxing this evening,hoping tomorrow to go out for the day and see my boyfriend and chat to him but wont go in case I still feel not 100% so will decide in the morning.

Have a lovely evening!


love and light,

Katie xxx

Horasio

A thought I had today

Is depression a reaction to feeling frustrated by not moving forward in life?

For example, not being able to get a job or being stuck in a life you hate but feel you can't change it.

Would the depression lift if you got what you wanted or if more positive things happened to you?

jenniewb

I read an excellent book by Oliver James that helped me to understand where I am at, it explained both my depression and eating disorder origins for me anyway- I think the trick with depression and infact any mental health problem, is they are not all the same, they come from different origins. Some people may well have chemical inbalances within their brain, but there are others who may well have had experiences which help to shape your mind and thus a depressive episode.

I think the first chapter in the book really pointed something very important out. From a scientific point of view, when we learn things out brain creates chemical and electrical reactions in our brain. Once part of out head connects with the other and then over time and the more we use and rely on that thought or reaction, the more "set" this becomes in our head.
The more we use the thoughts and reactions, the eariler they were created, the stronger they are in our heads and harder to change.

The book goes on to explain how small differences in families can really affect the way a baby responds to the world and reacts to things.

The book helped me anyway just to see why what was happeneing could be happening in my head made it feel a tiny bit less overwhelming.

shazrobo

don't think i can cope anymore. ever since josh shouted at me, and threatened me on friday, and trashed things in house, i've been anxious having panic attacks, feel totally confused and scared. got no joy from psychiatrist at hospital, due to lack of funding his clinic is closing and my kids will be refered else where

jenniewb

shazrobo wrote: »

don't think i can cope anymore. ever since josh shouted at me, and threatened me on friday, and trashed things in house, i've been anxious having panic attacks, feel totally confused and scared. got no joy from psychiatrist at hospital, due to lack of funding his clinic is closing and my kids will be refered else where

You really sound like you need some help- can you go to your GP? See what he/she can offer? there should be some sort of service there for you.

re: Josh, sorry for being really blonde- is he your son? things really seem chaotic with him (if it is) he seems to really be going too far. I don't want you to get the impression that I think you cannot cope (you have done so far to hold things together!) but you can get more help I think, with things how they are and now trashing the house- thats damage, there has to be some more help out there for you, does your GP have any suggestions?

Maybe call the police, call his bluff if he says he's going to threaten abuse, I was always told "Reasonable force" was fine for your own children, if he is unhappy the police will ask him if he wants to live elsewhere (most kids get scared of this) I get the impression its a bit of a power and control struggle for him, maybe his ADHD is very difficult for him to understand and it may feel out of control.

Know it would be easy for him to change, but it is possible! If he has grown into a set pattern and has ADHD and this is his norm, it will take time, but if he is trying to change, maybe thats something? at the moment all I can see from your posts is that he really has no need to change and your trying so damn hard with it all- it doesn't seem fair! I could be getting the wrong end of the stick here and please correct me if I am wrong but I just worry for you, things with him seem to be getting out of hand.

Seriously though, I know it sounds mean but have you thought of calling the police? do you think that he'd react to that? its just that you can have them visit (after speaking to them first) and they can be quite good with kids, they can explain the rights of the law and a sort of mock arrest, they know about the "abuse" threats kids make (many do it in a similar fashion) and it can sometimes be enough to 'scare' a child into taking a bit of responsibility over their own actions. If they knew your son was a threat to himself and even potentially others (yourself) then I'm sure they'd be happy to help.


That is terrible about the (your son's?) psychiatrist- nothing bad has happened yet so you don't know if it could be a posative change- fingers crossed and sorry for sounding probably over optimistic when your obviously not feeling the same way! I hope it all works out. I know though it is a real slog setting up a new relationship with a new psyhciatrist though, wont be easy but can be done! Remember you are not alone!

shazrobo

thanks for the reply jennie, yes joshua is one of my sons, i have twins, both with similar problems.
i have called the police many times, he has been arrested and received cautions, even having spent a little time in a cell. its like he forgets everything during a rage, and then makes silly excuses for his behaviour, like its not his fault?
think i will try ringing my cpn again, she only works part time, and if i cant get hold of her, i'll ring the gp.
as for telling him he would have to live elsewhere, he seems to enjoy that idea, more of a way to get away from his twin brother, they dont get along at all.

on a seperate note, me and ian going thru a bad patch again, whats new lol he just wants the fun times without any of the stress. last night i gave him an ultimatum, we either have a relationship where we share good and bad times, and talk about problems, or we just stay friends. can't handle being in a relationship right now, where there is no emotional support. where i get ignored if i tell him about problems with kids. told him if he wants to contuinue seeing me, kids come as part of package, otherwise we just stay friends.

needed to off load, been a stressful time.

hope everyone else is ok

hugs

shaz xxx

Indie_Kid

My depression is back again and I have no idea why. I then made the mistake of telling my friend about it. (mistake because he has far too much to worry about without me adding to his worries)