Esa Medicle exam Twisted everything i have said!!

NASA_2

chelleybelley wrote: »

that esa work related form was interesting,is the form the same if u go into their too disabled or ill at the moment path??

No, not unless you opt to voluntarily do it, otherwise they will just review your condition further down the line.

Garry_Anderson

healy wrote: »

The OP has not said whether they have failed to medical or not. The exam is for ESA and not for IB.

The medical is basically the same - just renamed from "All Work Test" to "Work Capability Assessment" (WCA).

If OP says that medical "has been twisted in a blatent attpempt to make it look like i can do things i cant" then it looks like Jox failed, wouldn't you say?

Garry_Anderson

bestpud wrote: »

Oh boy, another 'conspiracy' by JCP! :rolleyes:

You and your family seem to have more than your fair share of 'issues' with JCP, don't you?

I thanked you because of your brilliant joke about me - saying I think it was a 'conspiracy'

There is no conspiracy.

NASA_2

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

The medical is basically the same - just renamed from "All Work Test" to "Work Capability Assessment" (WCA).

If OP says that medical "has been twisted in a blatent attpempt to make it look like i can do things i cant" then it looks like Jox failed, wouldn't you say?

Actually, it would appear to mean they have passed the medical, they will be expected to make some effort in moving towards work though. Hence the WFHRA.

healy

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

The medical is basically the same - just renamed from "All Work Test" to "Work Capability Assessment" (WCA).

If OP says that medical "has been twisted in a blatent attpempt to make it look like i can do things i cant" then it looks like Jox failed, wouldn't you say?

The medical is quite different for ESA especially the mental health section.

It does not look like they have failed it looks like they have passed. The part they are talking about is a new section - have a look at some of the previous posts in this thread and there is a link to the form.

Garry_Anderson

healy wrote: »

The medical is quite different for ESA especially the mental health section.

It does not look like they have failed it looks like they have passed. The part they are talking about is a new section - have a look at some of the previous posts in this thread and there is a link to the form.

I do not doubt that the medical has been made harder to pass - however the basis of test is the same.

The history of the work capability assessment provides some answers. In 1994, the Tory government hired John LoCascio, second vice-president of giant US disability insurance company, Unum, to advise on reducing the numbers successfully claiming IB. He joined the "medical evaluation group". Another key figure in the group was Mansel Aylward. They devised a stringent "all work test". Approved doctors were trained in Unum's approach to claims management. The rise in IB claimants came to a halt. However, it did not reduce the rising numbers of claimants with mental health problems. The gateway to benefit needed tightening up even more.

In 1999, New Labour introduced its first Welfare Reform Act. All new claimants had to attend a compulsory work focused interview. Mansel Aylward, now chief medical officer of the DWP, devised a new personal capability assessment (PCA). The emphasis was no longer on entitlement, but on what a person is capable of doing. The task of administrating the PCA was contracted out and is now run by the US corporation Atos Origin. Its computerised evaluation of claims driven by clearance time targets has resulted in significant numbers of rejected claims, particularly for those with mental illness.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/17/epluribusunum

healy

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

I do not doubt that the medical has been made harder to pass - however the basis of test is the same.

No the basis of the test for mental health problems has changed completely. The information you have provided is very out of date. Have a look at the questions now for ESA and you will see they are totally different in many areas.

Garry_Anderson

healy wrote: »

No the basis of the test for mental health problems has changed completely. The information you have provided is very out of date. Have a look at the questions now for ESA and you will see they are totally different in many areas.

I recognise that the test has been updated and made harder to pass - but you do not.

healy

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

I recognise that the test has been updated and made harder to pass - but you do not.

I have made no comment either way.

If you want me to comment it is obvious that the test has been made harder to pass, you are not telling us anything new.

nogginthenog

jox wrote: »

yes careers advice can be helpful but my point is i told her i didnt feel at this time it would benifit me as attending places and my mobility needs make it very hard and under my current circumstances not a viable thing to do.

ok here is a more detailed version of the report

One other thing i noticed having got a copy of the report is that i wasnt asked the same questions that are on the report its self the doctor has made up their own questions to ask me then filled it in here are some examples

"what do you feel would help you achieve your future plans in relation to work"

the doctor has wrote

" The client feels they would benifit from some careers advice"

" the client would like go get back on a mechanics course"

i was not asked that question but various other little silly questions to get the answer she wanted to hear from me! now if i had of been asked that question how it is asked on this form in front of me the answer would have been completley diffrent! i would have said . im considering having a hip replacement and looking into physiothearapy. can you not see how they are twisting/ trying to get you to say what they want?

"what impact does your health have on your daily life"

again i was not asked this! i was just asked a bunch of little questions like can you do house work, can you read and write use a computer?

the answer she put is " the client feels their current health status has no impact on their ability to read speak wirte use a computer. !

!!!!!! this is not fair! where is the statements i made about how it effects my mobility getting dressed in and out the bath etc! this is blatent twisting leaving out vital things!

"do you recive any help or support fron other people with regard to your daily life?"

again i was not asked this i was merely asked if could do house work and shopping etc and could i live by my self.

she wrote down the client reports he could live indipendent but chooses not too!

omfg i get help from my mother and my g/f with lots of activitces dressing me cooking my meals helping me gett around outside and inside where the hell is the chance for me to mention this i was not asked the questions how they are on here this is totoly unfair and misleading im discraced by this!

Why did you not simply answer no the the questions if you are in pain... that would have been the honest answer.
APPEAL and get some advice.