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Garry_Anderson wrote: »

Nothing paranoid or delusional about her being put on means tested (savings based) JSA - to 'defraud' her out of £20 per week legal entitlement.

It is truly that simple - but you are intelligent person - what is it about this you don't understand?

But if she was entitled to the Contributory part then she would get £60.50 anyway

She was never going to 'lose out' by claiming both parts of the benefit. Your stance on this is truly bemusing.

Garry_Anderson

ESA - they didn't take a claim of her for claim off her for Contributory JSA - they took claim off her for and was going to give her income based JSA.

Garry_Anderson

ESA - if this was not the case then why did the advisor inform us that the claimant has a choice of either contribution or savings based JSA and say there must have been some mix up?

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Garry_Anderson wrote: »

ESA - they didn't take a claim of her for claim off her for Contributory JSA - they took claim off her for and was going to give her income based JSA.

Right, but when they take an Income Based claim (Which does take into account savings) they also take a Contributory Based claim (Which does not), meaning that even if she was only entitled to £40.50 a week on the Income Based part of the claim she would still receive £60.50 a week because here Contributions were up to date and that part was payable.

Not claiming the Income Based part means quite a few fringe benefits arent brought into play.

IMO you have potentially cost your daughter money if you prevented her claiming the Income Based part when she would have been entitled to it (If the savings meant only £20 would have been taken off).

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

ESA - if this was not the case then why did the advisor inform us that the claimant has a choice of either contribution or savings based JSA and say there must have been some mix up?

Because there is a choice. Contributory only or claiming both parts.

Garry_Anderson

ESA - we were told by advisor she could claim one or the other - it is stupid to claim Income Based JSA if you have savings over £6,000.

Indeed why do JCP need to get your financial position if you are going to claim Contribution Based JSA?

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Garry_Anderson wrote: »

ESA - we were told by advisor she could claim one or the other - it is stupid to claim Income Based JSA if you have savings over £6,000.

Indeed why do JCP need to get your financial position if you are going to claim Contribution Based JSA?

Thye dont need details of savings or investments for contributory only.

Garry_Anderson

ESA wrote: »

Thye dont need details of savings or investments for contributory only.

Indeed so - then why did they ask for it?

This isn't rocket science - I am not an idiot and have won official complaint against FSA on something much more involved - so stop making out these are paranoid delusions.

Ossireo

Garry_Anderson wrote: »

Indeed so - then why did they ask for it?

This isn't rocket science - I am not an idiot and have won official complaint against FSA on something much more involved - so stop making out these are paranoid delusions.

Maybe your daughter did not make it clear she JUST wanted to apply for Contribution Based JSA - trust me, an application for contribution based is a lot simpler to assess then a claim for both as you need far less information from the customer so it is quicker to complete. When would you know anyone to make more work for themselves, when they could get a nice simple application done, its not paranoia its basic statistics in claim clearance targets if you think about it :rolleyes:

However I get the impression you may like to argue for argument sake though

Ossireo

briansidhu wrote: »

hi
Just bee turned down for Jobseekers Allowance....they daid it was due to insufficient Class1 during tax years ending 2007 and 2008......during both these years, I earned over 100k so cannot understand this?

alos they refused to backdate for 23 weeks, my delay was due to my wife giving birth day after the redundancy...any advce?

thanks

Call the contact centre (number is on the letter you received saying you don't qualify) and tell them you are disputing the decision as you have paid full contributions for those tax years. You can then arrange to provide them with the correct information (usually sending them your P60's). They can use that information to update the records and re-assess your entitlement to JSA(C). There are a number of reasons that contributions have been incorrectly posted even going back to the employer being at fault, however it is a process of correction that is quite common so you shouldn't have much difficulty getting it looked at. Yet another good reason to keep those P60's safe!

Garry_Anderson

Ossireo wrote: »

Maybe your daughter did not make it clear she JUST wanted to apply for Contribution Based JSA - trust me, an application for contribution based is a lot simpler to assess then a claim for both as you need far less information from the customer so it is quicker to complete. When would you know anyone to make more work for themselves, when they could get a nice simple application done, its not paranoia its basic statistics in claim clearance targets if you think about it :rolleyes:

However I get the impression you may like to argue for argument sake though

Sorry - thought I made it clear - my daughter have never claimed before - she was asked about savings as though she was going for Income Based JSA - she didn't know any better so did no question this - I went to JCP and she had been put for Income Based JSA - what is difficult to understand?

BTW: I will argue with anybody that tries to 'steal' from my daughters - or indeed wife and self - hence confrontation with FSA.