Iceland - Quorn Vegetarian food £1!!!

L.S.D.

Roger_Rampant wrote: »

It's fairly obvious that most manufactured foods are unhealthy. Ask anybody that works in a food factory whether they would actually eat what is produced there - I remember how working for Manor Bakeries put me off eating Mr Kipling cakes! :rotfl:

Probably the most manufactured food is meat. Not to mention all the chemicals that are found in it.

Saint_Chris

1st is this fresh or frozen quorn

2nd if tesco say offer ends 3rd march, does that mean midnight tonight, or did it end last night

thanks

linni

19 thanks now - I love quorn, I am not vegetarian but I rarely eat meat. The quorn joint is lovely when sliced and cold. It doesn't upset my stomach and I don't get lumps of fat or grizzle when I eat it. I will be stocking up today.

seth

James_N wrote: »

Fairly easy really, since you ask (I am merely responding to this challange!).

"WASHINGTON -- A health advocacy group accused the government Monday of allowing fake meat made from fungus to be sold even though it makes people sick, and demanded that the product, known as Quorn, be recalled."

http://www.cspinet.org/Just look - the evidence is there ... (sigh).

Thanks I had a look for the evidence, which studies did you have in mind?

I had a look after ready your post and from what I found it is of note that 2002 was the launch of Quorn in the USA.

From the Wikipedia entry, I checked the references:

"The CSPI's claims were disputed by Marlow, the ICI spin-off who make Quorn, and described by Leslie Bonci, professor of nutrition at the University of Pittsburgh, as "overblown".CSPI have in turn been accused of using the most extreme and overblown quotations they receive for shock value. Pundit Steven Milloy, writing for the American channel Fox News, said "CSPI appears to have an unsavoury relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking". Science in the Public Interest work was funded by the owner of Garden Burger. They tried and succeeded in running a mud slinging campaign against Quorn (made by a UK company). The "Facts" you mention might be viewed differently when the funding for the "research" is made clear."

The maker of Quorn (a subsidiary of ICI originally) are not with fault. Their original pitch of Quorn being made from "a relative of the mushroom" is a bit of a stretch as it is made from a mould. Some folk <0.001 or less (not the >4% claimed by Garde burger) of the population are allergic to some Proteins and or Oligosaccharides and hence have an adverse reaction to Quorn. This like milk and wheat intolerance is due to the fact that humans did not evolve originally to east such foods, and so the gene to code for the appropriate enzymes can in some cases be double recessive and effectively drop out of an individuals genome. Given the recent prevalence of wheat and milk consumption in adult humans in the last 50k years such individual are quite rare in Europe. However it is interesting to note that in culture where milk or wheat is not consumed the genes may not be that common.

It is of note that meat and fish contain significantly high levels of toxins due to bio concentration, The risks associated are not clear and even something simple like the impact of fish oil on heart conditions in a large survey is inconclusive: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/08August/Pages/Oilyfishandmemory.aspx

An impartial review of Quorn the split of "Marlow Foods" from ICI and the lobbying from Gardenburger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

tiff

Saint_Chris wrote: »

1st is this fresh or frozen quorn

2nd if tesco say offer ends 3rd march, does that mean midnight tonight, or did it end last night

thanks

Its frozen Quorn and the Tesco offer ends tonight, I bought 6 packets today at 99p each.

James_N

seth wrote: »

Thanks I had a look for the evidence, which studies did you have in mind?

I had a look after ready your post and from what I found it is of note that 2002 was the launch of Quorn in the USA.

From the Wikipedia entry, I checked the references:

"The CSPI's claims were disputed by Marlow, the ICI spin-off who make Quorn, and described by Leslie Bonci, professor of nutrition at the University of Pittsburgh, as "overblown".CSPI have in turn been accused of using the most extreme and overblown quotations they receive for shock value. Pundit Steven Milloy, writing for the American channel Fox News, said "CSPI appears to have an unsavoury relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking". Science in the Public Interest work was funded by the owner of Garden Burger. They tried and succeeded in running a mud slinging campaign against Quorn (made by a UK company). The "Facts" you mention might be viewed differently when the funding for the "research" is made clear."

The maker of Quorn (a subsidiary of ICI originally) are not with fault. Their original pitch of Quorn being made from "a relative of the mushroom" is a bit of a stretch as it is made from a mould. Some folk <0.001 or less (not the >4% claimed by Garde burger) of the population are allergic to some Proteins and or Oligosaccharides and hence have an adverse reaction to Quorn. This like milk and wheat intolerance is due to the fact that humans did not evolve originally to east such foods, and so the gene to code for the appropriate enzymes can in some cases be double recessive and effectively drop out of an individuals genome. Given the recent prevalence of wheat and milk consumption in adult humans in the last 50k years such individual are quite rare in Europe. However it is interesting to note that in culture where milk or wheat is not consumed the genes may not be that common.

It is of note that meat and fish contain significantly high levels of toxins due to bio concentration, The risks associated are not clear and even something simple like the impact of fish oil on heart conditions in a large survey is inconclusive: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/08August/Pages/Oilyfishandmemory.aspx

An impartial review of Quorn the split of "Marlow Foods" from ICI and the lobbying from Gardenburger.

Thank you for your study and sense in pursuing this question carefully. I would like to respond, but am mindful of the users of this forum who only want information on a cheap deal at any price. In the interests of the stated purpose of the forum therefore, I suggest we drop the debate.

Best

therealdessie

Did anyone find that Tivall/Quorn beef in the end?

I popped down to Iceland, where they used to have plenty of large bags of Quorn products going cheap, only to find they have virtually nothing left at all now.

I might have to go to Asda. Where did I put my warm jumper...

jenniewb

Saint_Chris wrote: »

1st is this fresh or frozen quorn

2nd if tesco say offer ends 3rd march, does that mean midnight tonight, or did it end last night

thanks

Hi,
1: its frozen quorn, there were offers on the fresh quorn but nthey ended about a week ago (the fresh chicken style peices were £2 a pack) and in Tescos they have the new peppered steaks at £1.18 insted of £2.18 though

2. the offer ends in Tescos today as far as I am aware- but shop before 11pm as this is Tescos "end of day" and the offer may well cease after then, most customer service desksclose before 10pm so your on your own after then if you are overcharged and risk having to come back another time with said food. (ie irritating)

Or shop at Iceland where the frozen offer is on for a while yet.

mollysbb

To those who have an intolerance to quorn, could I suggest the soya mince... I have been vegetarian for 30 years and so have done a fair bit of trying out of products and, although the quorn fillets, roasts, bangers and burgers are fine, the consistency of the mince suffers from being cooked in sauces etc, whereas the soya does not. It keeps its' shape, and it absorbs the flavour of the sauce too. Realeat and supermarket own brands are soya.

Asda veggie burgers are also gorgeous and a really good alternative for those who crave "junk" food.

Cheers

Molly

therealdessie

Tesco have a number of Grassington products for £1 at the moment (all frozen) according to mysupermarket.