W I V Internatianal Wines

4willow

I also got one of the letters this morning. I was a Pieroth customer some 10 to 15 years and had no problems getting them to stop their periodical calls to persuade me to buy their latest 'special offer'. I thought the wines were quite good but, at £7-ish a bottle, not as good as some supermarket deals. They had a stand at the Ideal Home show recently, so are still out there spending marketing money...

aromulus

saint1d wrote: »

FYI Pieroth wine's are advertising for sales reps in the North East. They seem to advertise every couple of months and have been doing so for at least the past 2-3 years that I know of. I might be wrong but it strikes me that they must have a high turnover of staff. Ok maybe the job is rubbish or its too difficult to sell, then again it could be people leave once they find out it's some kind of scam. I just find it unusual to see the same company advertising month after month.

The job is not rubbish, it is actually very good. The high turnover in staff is simply due to the fact that we have to give a chance to nearly everyone that applies for a job, even dimwiths. Unfortunately, it is not a job that suits everyone, infact, only a small minority stays on. Too many people expect to make loads of money from day one, and are not prepared to put the hours and the commitmment in. WAGS nagging and TV football schedules, seem to interfere with work... They expect to jump into a 9 to 5 job... well, forget it. I have had the fortune to work for Pieroth for nearly 8 years, and patiently I have bult my clientele, without the need to scam anyone. The earning potential is in your own hands. And you get the rough with the smooth... Late evenings home, long hours on the road, weekend work when required... Or like I have been doing for the last couple of years, early finishes, less weekends away... Yes, I do admit, that the wines on offer are, on average, dearer than you would find in your local store, but we don't want to compete on prices. We leave the various shippers well behind in the quality stakes. Practically, if you like it, you want it and you can AFFORD it....... you are more than welcome to purchase it.
Just my 2 pence worth.

asea

come here often, do you?

aromulus

asea wrote: »

come here often, do you?

Nope.............. I was looking for something else really, and found this forum. But I will pop up, every now and then, just to read the various pearls of wisdom dispensed herein. Originally I was annoyed at some people slagging off the company I work for, but everyone is entitled to an opinion, wether right or wrong.
One can only try to explain, but it seemed to me, from the vein of the discussion, that pre-judgement is the order of the day among some forumers.

bap98189

aromulus wrote: »

The high turnover in staff is simply due to the fact that we have to give a chance to nearly everyone that applies for a job, even dimwiths.

No you don't. The company doesn't have to employ anyone it doesn't think is suitable. If, as you are suggesting, the vast majority of employees are not suitable then perhaps a more rigorous selction policy would be useful.

aromulus

bap98189 wrote: »

No you don't. The company doesn't have to employ anyone it doesn't think is suitable. If, as you are suggesting, the vast majority of employees are not suitable then perhaps a more rigorous selction policy would be useful.

Up to a couple of years ago it was ok, but since this newfangled "rigorous" interview method was introduced, we have to offer a position to any Tom, !!!!!! or Harriet that passes the tests, even if the management think that they are an obvious waste of space, breath and time.
Even after sifting the dross, the calibre of applicants that come through the system is ridiculous. This system involves a lot of paperwork, and managers have to devote a vast amount of time to process what they see as unnecessary. Time which could be better spent motivating the troops that bring ther real bacon home.
Not that we need motivating...

stevekos7

Hi all, I'm a new user of this forum, and found it 'googling' Pieroth Wines.

I have just had a free tasting with their local consultant here in Adelaide, South Australia. Although I was a bit sceptical at first, I have been very impressed overall with the experience so far. He came to my office and we spent a very pleasant hour. Although I didn't buy any wines immediately, I will definitely order some in the near future, both for my private use, and they have some nice marketing ideas for my clients that I will be looking at in the future too.

Unlike some people's experiences here, the rep was very pleasant, not too 'salesy' and didn't go into meltdown when I didn't buy anything straight away. If anything his laid-back manner showed a degree of confidence I don't see very often.

Coming from a well known wine producing region in South Australia, and although definitely no expert, I think I know a little bit about nice wines. I was impressed with the quality of the wines I tasted - clean, full-bodied reds, and a lovely not-too-dry-not-too-sweet semilon my wife will fall in love with.

Yes, the wines are a bit costlier than the local cheapo wine shop specials, but if you want nice wines you want nice wines!

I definitely won't stop buying the local product, but some Pieroth Wines will certainly take up a bit of space in my collection in future.

Cheers,
Steve.

Tigger1

Hi fellow wine-bibbers. I had a tasting from Pieroth but didn't order any wines as the ones the Rep had brought were all over £10 a bottle. About 6 weeks later I got a phone-call from their Doncaster callcentre from a chap (Darren?) who recommended several wines, all MUCH below the proces I had been quoted - ie all @ £3.75 + VAT. They have arrived and I must say the two French - Cuvee le Bosq and Vin de Pays (d'Hainault) are pretty good, esp. for the price. The Australian "Broken Shackle" 2006, however, we thought was awful. No bouquet very little flavour, no finish and since it claims to be !4% alc should hav been much more robust. Anyone else had this wine? It appears on several wine lists (O'Rourke's, Wineman, etc) and they all give it a great write-up BUT they also give a completely different name of the vintners. I am seriously wondering if someone has put different plonk in these bottles. (I got to these threads and website by typing in Cabot Cellars. Yes I am a Newbie, but started on a different line of enquiry)

aromulus

Tigger1 wrote: »

Hi fellow wine-bibbers. I had a tasting from Pieroth but didn't order any wines as the ones the Rep had brought were all over £10 a bottle. About 6 weeks later I got a phone-call from their Doncaster callcentre from a chap (Darren?) who recommended several wines, all MUCH below the proces I had been quoted - ie all @ £3.75 + VAT. They have arrived and I must say the two French - Cuvee le Bosq and Vin de Pays (d'Hainault) are pretty good, esp. for the price. The Australian "Broken Shackle" 2006, however, we thought was awful. No bouquet very little flavour, no finish and since it claims to be !4% alc should hav been much more robust. Anyone else had this wine? It appears on several wine lists (O'Rourke's, Wineman, etc) and they all give it a great write-up BUT they also give a completely different name of the vintners. I am seriously wondering if someone has put different plonk in these bottles. (I got to these threads and website by typing in Cabot Cellars. Yes I am a Newbie, but started on a different line of enquiry)

The people that normally do write ups on wine, do not necessarily have the same tastes ay you.
And alcohol content does not really relate to the "robustness" of the wine. I had the misfortune to buy a 40 Euro, 13.5%, bottle of Barolo, in Italy, not so long ago. And it was as thin as water, but the so called "lighter" Chianti, 12.5%, purchased on the same trip, was as thick as tar...
It is nice to be price conscious, but not when it drives you to deny yourself the quality you deserve.
Oh, well, for all it is worth.... Just my two pence again...

Voyager2002

My experience...
They called to offer me my free gift and 'sampling' of six wines. Their rep, poor guy, had just about the shiftiest face that I have seen for ages, not that that made any difference. He told me a bit about the company, making some statements that I find unlikely (eg that they own most of the vineyards where there wine is produced). He assured me that they ensure that very high quality standards are maintained, and that therefore their wines remain good for drinking for a week after the bottle has been opened (the reason why wine goes off is that when it is exposed to the air it gets oxidised, and this happens to even the highest quality wine).

I was then treated to tiny cups of each of the six wines. Five of them were pretty good, but I could not taste anything that made them better than the wines I buy from Laithwaites. (It is probable that they were not in top condition: all the bottles had been opened previously and I suspect that a couple of them had undergone oxidation, and they were certainly at the wrong temperature.) And the price per case, at around 140 pounds, was roughly double what Laithwaites charge for broadly comparable quality. When I declined to order at that price I got a bit of hard-sell treatment: these were "special occasion" wines and I was reminded several times that Christmas was coming. I was also given the option of payment on easy terms. Once it was clear that I was not going to place an order he left pretty quickly. I did not get my free gift (binoculars) but presumably he just forgot it, since he left his calculator in my place.

All in all, not really an experience I would care to repeat, although the opportunity to taste and compare six different wines for free is fairly unusual.