Tesco Milk cartons leak when defrosting

Wig

spaceage wrote:

Harm to the environment? The cartons were much stronger than the plastic carp they use these days. And with a carton, it would go into my purple recycling bag with the paper, because it wasn't one of those awkward foil coated cartons which can't easily be recycled. Let's face it, whoever designed this carton is several bricks short of a load. :rolleyes:

For the sake of 2p reduction in price we are now expected to faff around with containers. It's a disgrace and is the reason I am taking my milk purchasing to Morrisons. Why don't people realise that we are eating out of the hands of these multinationals? They can do anything they like and does anyone ever complain? No.

As I said a carton is not a suitable for freezing container either. I've had frozen cartons and bottles and never had a problem with either, people responding to this threaed have never had a problem. Only you and your "one incident" have had a problem. I have seen Yeovalley cartons regularly leaking on the Tesco shelf, so much so that I got used to having to check if my carton was a "leaker" before I put it into my trolley. Also the fact there was always milk on the shelf under the cartons tended to weaken the other cartons. It wouldn't surprise me if Tesco put pressure on Yeovalley to change to plastic.

There is no way that a carton can be said to be "freezing friendly", the expanding milk would have no difficulty splitting a few seams in a cardboard carton, all it needs is the right conditions in the carton (a little too much milk) or in the freezer (the carton jammed into a tight space in the freezer). To make a container guaranteed suitable for freezing would cost our environment dearly imo. And uneccessarily so because so few milk bottles/cartons do actually leak after freezing.

If you want cartons then take the St Helens goats milk.

And for me the choice is Tesco or Somerfield (Somerfield are small so slightly expensive) or a 23 mile roundtrip to Asda, compared to 6mile for Tesco.

Ivan you forgot Nestle & Phizer & Ecover

Basil_Fawlty

You're still forgetting the health concerns behind plastic containers. Do you accept that simply because there has been no proven link that they are totally safe and pose absolutely no risk to health? There have been substantiated claims about these types of of packaging.

As for Nestle, I boycott them because I have educated myself on the full facts behind the way they make money by getting mothers in developing countries to use powdered milk instead of breast milk, something that would be deemed unthinkable in this country. They give free powdered milk in the first few weeks post-birth till the mother can't produce milk then they charge and make money. Not only is this highly immoral and unethical in my opinion, the babies also suffer through the fact that there is not always clean water on hand, as a result, many die. I feel this is very, very wrong, and hope that you do too, because if you don't, there's something wrong with you.

skintchick

spaceage wrote:

If I sell you a brand new plasma TV and put a warning in small writing on the side of the box saying "may not be suitable for viewing for over 1hr continuous duration" you'd be flipping mad, but I'd be covered. See my point? It isn't right to put absolute tripe like that on the packaging then blame customers for not reading it.

I'm glad not all moneysavers' attitudes are like yours. :rolleyes: Because we'd never get anywhere.

My point was that it does not happen every time, you were unlucky. If it happened every time I would agree with you, but !!!!!! happens, honey, and sometimes it is going to happen to you. And if that's the only bad thing to have happened to you recently then you are doing very well indeed.

I've been made redundant
My NAN (in her 80s) has had a mastectomy that isn't healing properly
My mate's dad AND granddad died within days of each other last week

Personally, I save my weeping and wailing for real stuff, not milk cartons.

Wig

Ahh but now you're changing the complaint, before the complaint was about freezing (even though they do say on the side "in a suitable container"). Yes plastic is a small worry, but for me it is no more than that, I draw the line at cooking in plastic trays. Milk in plastic is not a problem for me, because the plastic can be recycled easily now (about fr:mad:ng time!).

You do know the Nestle incident was about 30 years ago? and yes I do still avoid Nestle even though it has been 30 years, but do you also boycott others who are equally as nasty?

Pfizer did some awful things to women in the third world using them as guinea pigs for their new drugs Subcutaneous birth control sticks which were under their skin for 4 years, that is if they didn't hack them out themselves first.

Coca Cola in Colombia hired mafia hit men to kill union representatives of the workforce, in India Coca cola sucked the water table dry in an area around the factory, and had some waste product 'mud' which they gave to local farmers to put on their crops telling them it was fertilizer....actually it was rich in heavy metals and chemicals, leading to ill health of the locals.

And there are no doubt plenty more examples like Nike, Dow Corning, and loads more...Monsanto. And as Ivan implies...where do you stop? You'll soon boycott most global companies and what of the shops who sell their products?