Tesco Milk cartons leak when defrosting

allycat999

spaceage wrote:

Yeo Valley claim there is no risk of the plastic leaching into the milk, even minimal amounts. But then, there was supposed to be no risk from eating contaminated beef during the BSE outbreak, then there 'was' a risk and beef was removed, but it was still enough to cause CJD in those people who were susceptible to it.

Off subject but the BSE outbreak occured mainly in dairy cattle not beef cattle. Although obviously beef cattle did get BSE. No worries about contaminated milk then???

IvanOpinion

CrazyChemist wrote:

Ivan, did you know that in rural states in the USA there are some people who actually do purchase an entire cow (for around $400) and store it in a massive freezer (sliced up of course)? They then feast on steaks every other day. It's in the farming communities such as South Dakota where this practice is most common. I know this is irrelevant to the discussion, but it's something you would appreciate, with your wacky but very rational ideas.

My folks actually used to do that. Between them and three other neighbours (all of whonm had large chest freezers) they used to buy a cow, a pig and a couple of lambs and then split them up between them. This was in the late 70's .. remember the time of many power strikes .. just after my folks little syndicate had topped up the freezers .. we were having frying steak and eggs for breakfast, gammon steaks for elevenses, sirloins for lunch, racks of lamb for tea and fillet steaks for supper (my father refused to allow anything to go to waste).

(I wonder if the cow would leak on defrosting?? :rotfl: )

.. an elastic band on each teat should solve that problem


Just away to saw another inch of the frozen milk carton for my morning cuppa

Ivan

IvanOpinion

DW has just shown me a plastic carton of 'One' milk and it does say 'suitable for home freezing - defrost for 8-10 hours' and nothing about decanting into another container .. is it only the cardboard cartons that are a problem? I think I am getting as sad as every body else here

ivan

Basil_Fawlty

IvanOpinion wrote:

DW has just shown me a plastic carton of 'One' milk and it does say 'suitable for home freezing - defrost for 8-10 hours' and nothing about decanting into another container .. is it only the cardboard cartons that are a problem? I think I am getting as sad as every body else here

ivan

Tesco sell the cheap flimsy plastic cartons. Not the cardboard cartons. If they sold the cardboard cartons there would be no problem with milk expansion fracturing the cheap nasty packaging.

firespire wrote:

My supermarket (not Tesco) has a sign near the milk which says something on the lines of - why not buy extra milk to keep in the freezer for when you need it. (nothing about changing the container)

I was in Morrisons the other day when I noticed they still do Organic Milk (1 pint) in cardboard cartons. Cleared the shelf and now m'freezer is full! I've emailed them to say how pleased I am to see they haven't changed to cheap plastic and they emailed back to say how nice it is to hear from customers and they will log my comments. How nice. Damn side better than what I got from Tesco. I know where I'll be doing my shopping from now on..

CrazyChemist_2

IvanOpinion wrote:

DW has just shown me a plastic carton of 'One' milk and it does say 'suitable for home freezing - defrost for 8-10 hours' and nothing about decanting into another container .. is it only the cardboard cartons that are a problem? I think I am getting as sad as every body else here

ivan

"One" milk? Is that a brand? I've never heard of it before Tell me, is it in a plastic or cardboard packaging?

spaceage wrote:

I was in Morrisons the other day when I noticed they still do Organic Milk (1 pint) in cardboard cartons. Cleared the shelf and now m'freezer is full! I've emailed them to say how pleased I am to see they haven't changed to cheap plastic and they emailed back to say how nice it is to hear from customers and they will log my comments. How nice. Damn side better than what I got from Tesco. I know where I'll be doing my shopping from now on..

Stand clear everyone, I'm going to clear out Morrison's Organic Milk! The only thing I don't like about Morrisons is that their fish counter always smells strongly of chlorine - not a great turn-on.

But I'm glad to hear that not everyone has switched to cheapo plastic which leaks. How much is the milk per pint, if you remember? And is it actually their own brand or is it Yeo Valley in cardboard, because if Yeo Valley, it's just the old stock clearing out as they've gone to plastic.

P.S: Is anyone going to tell me what HANWE stands for??

Wig

hanwe: have a nice week end
http://www.maayboli.com/hitguj/messages/1/1586.html?1132803582

Ivan,

Inpector gadget here, had a look on 2 milk bottles

Tesco organic cows.....freeze on day of purchase in a suitable container ....which implies not this container.

Yeovalley organic cows....suitable for freezing

The tesco one is inline with their policy, so what's yer problem OP?

Basil_Fawlty

Wig wrote:

hanwe: have a nice week end
http://www.maayboli.com/hitguj/messages/1/1586.html?1132803582

Ivan,

Inpector gadget here, had a look on 2 milk bottles

Tesco organic cows.....freeze on day of purchase in a suitable container ....which implies not this container.

Yeovalley organic cows....suitable for freezing

The tesco one is inline with their policy, so what's yer problem OP?

That it's stupid to imply that every customer wanting to freeze that milk should find 'suitable containers' for the milk. It's nonsense, don't you see that? While they have put that on their containers they have simultaneously admitted that their packaging isn't suitable for one of the purposes; freezing! :rolleyes: But they're a big chain and there are plenty of nutters who will willingly accept stupid instructions such as these without a problem.

Wig

I thought your problem was that it said "suitable for freezing" like the Yeovalley one does. But the Tesco one clearly tells you "in a suitable container". Which is almost the best that they can do.

A plastic milk bottle, and a cardboard milk carton are both unsuitable containers for freezing, both could leak on defrosting, (I gave you a solution for this earlier on). To ask them to sell in containers definately suitable for freezing, would imo be too expensive for them and for us and would be environmentally disastrous. The purpose of the container is to hold milk, not to be frozen.

The most you should be asking for is a warning on the bottle/carton this may leak if frozen and then defrosted. Anything more and you obviously don't see the uneccessary harm to the environment that would result.

Basil_Fawlty

Wig wrote:

I thought your problem was that it said "suitable for freezing" like the Yeovalley one does. But the Tesco one clearly tells you "in a suitable container". Which is almost the best that they can do.

A plastic milk bottle, and a cardboard milk carton are both unsuitable containers for freezing, both could leak on defrosting, (I gave you a solution for this earlier on). To ask them to sell in containers definately suitable for freezing, would imo be too expensive for them and for us and would be environmentally disastrous. The purpose of the container is to hold milk, not to be frozen.

The most you should be asking for is a warning on the bottle/carton this may leak if frozen and then defrosted. Anything more and you obviously don't see the uneccessary harm to the environment that would result.

Harm to the environment? The cartons were much stronger than the plastic carp they use these days. And with a carton, it would go into my purple recycling bag with the paper, because it wasn't one of those awkward foil coated cartons which can't easily be recycled. Let's face it, whoever designed this carton is several bricks short of a load. :rolleyes:

For the sake of 2p reduction in price we are now expected to faff around with containers. It's a disgrace and is the reason I am taking my milk purchasing to Morrisons. Why don't people realise that we are eating out of the hands of these multinationals? They can do anything they like and does anyone ever complain? No.

IvanOpinion

spaceage wrote:

Why don't people realise that we are eating out of the hands of these multinationals? They can do anything they like and does anyone ever complain? No.

I think people will only complain if it directly affects them ... I don't freeze milk and to be honest have never thought about it therefore whether or not a container is suitable is irrelevant to me ... hence I have no reason to complain.

On the other hand you can't have your milk and drink it .. we demand lower and lower prices and as many supermarket surveys show the brand that often sells the best is the one priced the cheapest (not necessarily the tastiest, not necessarily the most ethically produced, not necessarily the most environmentally friendly, not necessarily the 'fairest policy etc.) It is the big stickers that tell us how cheap something is that means the most. These alrge multi-nationals have done a lot to reduce high streeet prices of food ... often to the expense of the producers and the animals ... but again people don't care just as long as the end product is cheap.

In this case you have a problem with milk containers however someone else could say that supermarkets should only sell free range eggs, free range chickens, ethical sugar, fair trade chocolate, no coca cola, no pepsi, no Heinz, no Proctor and Gamble, no Canadian fish products, etc. etc. .. how often have you complained about all of these? ... search the web and you will find that someone somewhere wants just about everything to be boycotted (including the internet!).

Ivan