Tesco Milk cartons leak when defrosting

iwanttosave_2

Bloody heck, this is a place to rant about something, not to get your views shot down by people who don't agree with them.

I have come on here for a vent before, usually about something meaningless that would only bother me, but I felt better for doing it. Now what is it going to acheive coming in here just to say these things about OP.

To tell you the truth, if I had to freeze milk, having to decant it would really get my goat. Having to put all the shopping away, them find multiple suitable containers for milk. Now sorry but its just plain stupid not to be able to freeze them in original packaging.

Might be a bit late for this, but be kind to all moneysavers. its what makes this a nice place to be.

IvanOpinion

CrazyChemist wrote:

Ivan, If you have any suggestions for me, I'd like to hear them as you seem a common sense guy! I do buy UHT milk but the taste just isn't the same as with fresh milk.

That UHT stuff is always foul .. reminds one a bit of Marvel and CoffeeMate (do they still make them).

Suggestions .... how about buy a cow and get your milk on draft

I actually just phoned my friend and asked her why the hell she freezes milk (and more to the point why put it in ice bags as opposed to freezing the entire carton). She says she uses so little that she was always throwing it out so now she just buys a litre puts it in bags and breaks off a couple of cubes when she makes a cup of tea/coffee - a litre does her 2-3 weeks. Shes mad ... totally mad ... but it gives a whole new meaning to 'one lump or two'

Ivan

sockospice

IvanOpinion wrote:

That UHT stuff is always foul .. reminds one a bit of Marvel and CoffeeMate (do they still make them).

Suggestions .... how about buy a cow and get your milk on draft

I actually just phoned my friend and asked her why the hell she freezes milk (and more to the point why put it in ice bags as opposed to freezing the entire carton). She says she uses so little that she was always throwing it out so now she just buys a litre puts it in bags and breaks off a couple of cubes when she makes a cup of tea/coffee - a litre does her 2-3 weeks. Shes mad ... totally mad ... but it gives a while new meaning to 'one lump or two'

Ivan

Now that is moneysaving!

Wig

I freeze milk occasionally (Ivan: it's when you get them for 10p reduced you put them in the freezer) I also have organic milk.

I realise that there is a real risk of leakage due to freezing and there is nothing tesco can do about this even making the container bigger would not help, because if the top part freezes before the bottom then the bottom when it freezes has to expand somewhere.

I have never had any leakages. and I've frozen cartons, and bottles 1pint, 2pint and 4 pint. If it annoys you defrost it standing in a jug - problem solved.

Water expanding is extremely strong, think Copper water pipes........

Oh and btw Lister is correct (well almost) about the bacteria and the freezing bit. Where you and Lister are not correct is that most of the bacteria which will cause the milk to go off are allready in the milk, so opening it before freezing will make no difference to it's overall unfrozen life span.

Say for example your milk will last three days (for the sake of arguement this 3 days we will take as a fixed timespan), you can open the milk use it for one day freeze it for 3 months then defrost and it will still be good for another 2 days.

And you said you were a medical sciences student?

Basil_Fawlty

Wig wrote:

And you said you were a medical sciences student?

I'm a Clinical Biochemistry undergraduate. Funny enough that doesn't include any modules on how milk is processed and packaged into cartons before being sent off to supermarkets. I think that comes under the "B.A. Milk Production" Degree course :rotfl:

When it says "pasteurised and homogenised" on the carton, that implies that steps have been taken to eradicate any harmful substances in the milk, before bottling. The milk should therefore be free from anything harmful till exposed again, shouldn't it?

Wig

Pasturisation (sp?) kills a lot of the bacteria, yes, and that is why they do it so it lasts longer, some will say it also kills all the goodies, and unpasturised milk is better for you.

I guess I could stand corrected on that part of my post, as most milk is pasturised. As soon as the milk cools down and is put into the bottles, throughout this process there will be an amount of bacteria which again enter the milk.

Homogenised just means mixed up afaik.

peter_the_piper

I sometimes wish the old MIL kept goats still, theres nothing like real fresh milk.

CrazyChemist_2

Maybe I will get a cow...

Anyone know where I can buy a cow?

IvanOpinion

CrazyChemist wrote:

Maybe I will get a cow...

Anyone know where I can buy a cow?

I have just paid DWs credit card bills and I am so tempted to answer that question!!!!

Ivan

Wig

I retract, my earlier retraction about pasturised milk. It says on Cravendale milk...."We fine filter our milk to remove more of the bacteria left behind after pasturisation..so it lasts longer"

So it is clear that even after paturisation there are still significant numbers of bacteria present, and I say that the bacteria in the milk are the bacteria which on the whole cause the milk to go off.