Tesco Milk cartons leak when defrosting

daveboy

Any one heard of Cravendale?

Problem solved. Keeps for 7 days once opened...has a much longer use by date too.

Diddums to those that ignore advice on packaging...but good on you for showing you are a typical MSE'er by complaining about your ignorance on here and blaming the supermarket.

us,thecat&thedebt

hawkwinddotcom wrote:

Why can't you just follow the instructions that its not suitable?

They have warned you !!!!!!! :rolleyes:

why do u have to be rude
i never said i had frozen milk and ignored there instructions

what i said was why cant they just put them in sutible in the first place!!!!!!!!


and to remind you this is a vent board for people to moan about consumers so y dont they just put them in sutible contaniers :mad:

CrazyChemist_2

IvanOpinion wrote:

Tescos have said not to freeze in the original packaging, OP has a problem with opening the carton ... I ask why do you freeze milk - its not exactly in short supply. I know a friend of mine freezes it in ice cube bags then she only has to break off a few but to me it seems an awful lot of trouble

The bottom line is that Tesco have made the instructions clear - you have a choice ... put in a new container (which has problems), freeze in original packaging (which has problems) or don;t freeze (which may have problems). Maybe they should supply it in both containers then those that need to freeze it can pay extra for the better container.

Ivan

Well for starters, I freeze milk because I don't live too near any shops/amenities that sell Organic Milk, so it really isn't practical to drive out to get a few items - we get a Tesco delivery every couple of weeks or sooner if need be. Apart from that, there isn't much point in going miles just to get Organic Milk. Therefore, freezing is the logical way to go.

Ivan, If you have any suggestions for me, I'd like to hear them as you seem a common sense guy! I do buy UHT milk but the taste just isn't the same as with fresh milk.

I'm not sure what the situation is with the OP but I hope you understand things from my perspective now.

us,thecat&thedebt

we try to do fortnightly shops so i try to buy milk to cover for that long..

havent frozen some for a while though...

i still say lets all get a milkman lol :rotfl:

lister

spaceage wrote:

What cheek!! So we're supposed to open the carton, expose the milk to foreign bacteria, place it in a 'container', then freeze it, complete with bacteria, ready to multiply when you defrost it? It's madness!

Surely you aren't serious? It will make no difference at all if you open the carton before freezing - this is just basic biology.

Normal use:
- Open milk, allowing foreign bacteria to enter and multiply.
- Gradually use milk before foreign bacteria multiplies sufficiently for milk to go off.

Opening before freezing:
- Open milk and pour into another container. Very small amount of foreign bacteria may enter in the moments it takes to do this.
- Freeze immediately. Bacteria can no longer multiply.
- Defrost. Bacteria allowed to enter milk again and begin multiplying
- Gradually use milk before foreign bacteria multiplies enough for milk to go off.

So the bacteria gets a whole 2 minute head start if you open before freezing. Big deal.

Frankly if I worked in Tescos customer services department and received your complaint it would get pinned on the wall for humour value.

Basil_Fawlty

lister wrote:

Surely you aren't serious? It will make no difference at all if you open the carton before freezing - this is just basic biology.

Normal use:
- Open milk, allowing foreign bacteria to enter and multiply.
- Gradually use milk before foreign bacteria multiplies sufficiently for milk to go off.

Opening before freezing:
- Open milk and pour into another container. Very small amount of foreign bacteria may enter in the moments it takes to do this.
- Freeze immediately. Bacteria can no longer multiply.
- Defrost. Bacteria allowed to enter milk again and begin multiplying
- Gradually use milk before foreign bacteria multiplies enough for milk to go off.

So the bacteria gets a whole 2 minute head start if you open before freezing. Big deal.

Frankly if I worked in Tescos customer services department and received your complaint it would get pinned on the wall for humour value.

You are typical of the non-thinking consumer who seems to think that we should always do what we're told. "The supermarket is always right" - is that your motto?

As for your Biology knowledge... :rotfl: I admit they won't proliferate while frozen but you should consume the milk within 3 days or so after opening - otherwise you can keep till the Use By date. However, if you've opened before freezing then to be safe you can't really keep it for more than 3 days.

As for the comedy value, I find it hilarious that you think that Tesco is correct to put milk into these flimsy unsuitable cartons. I quote the Sale of Goods Act:

• Wherever goods are bought they must "conform to contract". This means they must be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality (i.e. not inherently faulty at the time of sale).

A fault present at the time of purchase. Examples are:
• an error in design so that a product is manufactured incorrectly
• an error in manufacturing where a faulty component was inserted.
The "fault" may not become apparent immediately but it was there at the time of sale and so the product was not of satisfactory standard.

daveboy wrote:

Any one heard of Cravendale?

Problem solved. Keeps for 7 days once opened...has a much longer use by date too.

Diddums to those that ignore advice on packaging...but good on you for showing you are a typical MSE'er by complaining about your ignorance on here and blaming the supermarket.

Well, if you want to insult MoneySavers then go ahead but don't then be a hypocrite and continue to use this forum to your benefit.

And I'm not being ignorant - it's those who think that it is fairly logical to decant milk into a special container before freezing who are ignorant. And as such I shall blame the supermarket for the reasons above. I'm the one who's thinking here. Shame not all people have common sense these days :rotfl:

zappomatic

The carton is designed to hold a liquid pint of milk, which it does and so is satisfactory. It's not designed to hold whatever volume milk takes up when frozen.

Having delt with large quantities of milk in the supermarket, it's amazing just how many of these are delivered in bottles that are already leaking or not properly sealed. The seam in the plastic is especially vulnerable. The plant used to bottle milk must be quite crude as we often received milk with no lids or seals, or properly sealed empty bottles!

Basil_Fawlty

zappomatic wrote:

The carton is designed to hold a liquid pint of milk, which it does and so is satisfactory. It's not designed to hold whatever volume milk takes up when frozen.

There is nothing extraordinary about freezing milk, so the container should be able to withstand that. It can't, therefore isn't suitable.

lister

spaceage wrote:

However, if you've opened before freezing then to be safe you can't really keep it for more than 3 days.

No - you still don't get it. There is no difference to the lifespan of the milk that is opened before freezing and the milk that is opened after freezing (providing it is frozen immediately after opening). None. Nada.

spaceage wrote:

• Wherever goods are bought they must "conform to contract". This means they must be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality (i.e. not inherently faulty at the time of sale).

A fault present at the time of purchase. Examples are:
• an error in design so that a product is manufactured incorrectly
• an error in manufacturing where a faulty component was inserted.
The "fault" may not become apparent immediately but it was there at the time of sale and so the product was not of satisfactory standard.

Err, hello, you yourself have said that Tescos say on the packaging not to freeze it. Therefore it is as described and of a satisifactory standard for the purpose for which it was intended. You would be laughed out of court if you tried to bring a case on this basis.

spaceage wrote:

And I'm not being ignorant - it's those who think that it is fairly logical to decant milk into a special container before freezing who are ignorant. And as such I shall blame the supermarket for the reasons above. I'm the one who's thinking here. Shame not all people have common sense these days :rotfl:

You are being totally unreasonable. You are allowed to think before you do something. Milk is what, 90%+ water? Water expands when it freezes, so milk is going to expand when it freezes. If your favourite brand of millk comes in containers that don't leave much airspace, of course it isn't suitable for freezing.

I very much doubt you would have a case in law even if the packaging didn't say not to freeze. You would have to be able to demonstrate that freezing was the purpose for which the good was sold. Just because you bought it with the intention of freezing, doesn't make it the purpose for which it was sold.

CrazyChemist_2

Freezing is one of the purposes for which it is sold :rolleyes:

Why else would it say on the pack "Suitable for Home Freezing"?