Tesco Milk cartons leak when defrosting

Basil_Fawlty

BFG wrote:

Please help me ..

I bought some madiera cakes from tescos and then made a boat out of them.

I was amazed to discover that the boat didn't float for very long (especially with the whole family aboard it).

What annoys me is that I actually used the smooth peanut butter to stick the bits of cake together so there's no way it should have leaked (the lumpy peanut butter doesn't give as close a fit)!!!

Can I complain to Tesco's?

Before anyone jumps down my throat, can I just say that it doesn't say on the package 'Do not use to make boats'...so there.

It's rather strange how the three users who 'thanked' you haven't even posted on this board yet but felt it necessary to appreciate that twisted series of words you probably call "wit". :rolleyes: Could there be other intelligent life on this forum? :rotfl:

As for the point which you have comprehended and argued extremely poorly, the milk packet says "Suitable for Home Freezing" therefore I expect to be able to freeze it without any ill effects. You incorrectly and quite stupidly compare this to the fact that it doesn't say "Do not use to make boats" on the cake packaging - it doesn't say "Do not freeze" on the milk packets, in fact, it says the opposite as I have already stated.

I'm going to Tesco in a few minutes and will have a look at the Madeira Cake to see it it is "Suitable for use in boat construction". Something tells me it won't... :rolleyes: Which means that my point remains :cool: , and that you are an eejit :rotfl:

daveboy

I think most of the people, other than myself, who have posted on this thread should consider standing for Parliament at the next election.

How many times you can beat a milk carton to death is beyond me.

It gets to a stage where the discussion gets boring and people just duplicate what others have said.

Having just, this moment, come to the site and having scrolled down the list of boards I really couldn't believe this one is still going.

There is a term 'filibustering' in politics. When someone drags out a debate in order to prevent a vote.

This one has been thrashed to death...if there is an issue then vent at Tesco because doing it here is just wasting your time and energy.

Wig

I don't think we've discussed it enough yet, we haven't discussed the length of time it can remain frozen....3 months? or longer? Personally I have no determinate length beyond which I darenot go, and I haven't found milk to be off yet on defrosting.

IvanOpinion

The good news is that the milk can be frozen for up to 3 months ... the bad news is that the carton can only be frozen for 4 days.

Ivan

CrazyChemist_2

daveboy wrote:

I think most of the people, other than myself, who have posted on this thread should consider standing for Parliament at the next election.

How many times you can beat a milk carton to death is beyond me.

It gets to a stage where the discussion gets boring and people just duplicate what others have said.

Having just, this moment, come to the site and having scrolled down the list of boards I really couldn't believe this one is still going.

There is a term 'filibustering' in politics. When someone drags out a debate in order to prevent a vote.

This one has been thrashed to death...if there is an issue then vent at Tesco because doing it here is just wasting your time and energy.

Nobody has duplicated anything yet apart from the OP whom it appears was trying to reiterate the original point to some rather hasty posters who obviously didn't bother to read the whole thread before butting in. :rolleyes:

I think we should discuss the issue of suitable packaging - I notice there is a thread on Seabrook Crisps - does Daveboy think that thread is also "thrashed to death"? I hope not, because the issue of those crisps no longer being packed in plastic and now being in foil packets has been enough to start a petition which is going strong by the looks of things. Shame that some of you are more interested in peronally attacking the OP for bringing a matter such as this to our attention. I hadn't noticed it but I'm glad I know about it. (I'm still waiting for a reply to my email to Tesco :rolleyes:!)

I'd be happy to add my name to a list/petition to get milk back into good old fashioned packaging, even if it does cost a couple of pennies more.:D I remember Panorama reported on the potential safety issues of these plastic milk cartons a few years back... does anyone else remember this? I'll have a poke around to see if the BBC Website has an programme archive that far back... it's a shame that our government doesn't take pride in the health of it's citizens. Ah well, there's only so far one can go...

Personally, I'd like to see the return of the milkman (nostalgia kicking in again ) but there is a limit to how far we can go... unless Martin is interested in diversifying into the dairy industry? :think:

Good luck!!!!!! :cool:

CC :beer:

Bargainbabe_2

Have I really just read 6 pages on a vent about milk cartons?

My, I think I best pop out and get myself a life. BRB.

ariba10

The thing that intrigues me in this thread is "Organic milk"
I read an article in a national paper at the end of last year on how they get organic eggs. Apparently you feed an ordinary chicken on a mix of 80% organic feed and 20% of anything for six weeks and on the first morning of the seventh week it lays organic eggs. Is it the same for cows.

mummytofour

daveboy wrote:

Any one heard of Cravendale?

Problem solved. Keeps for 7 days once opened...has a much longer use by date too.

Diddums to those that ignore advice on packaging...but good on you for showing you are a typical MSE'er by complaining about your ignorance on here and blaming the supermarket.

Costs way toooo much, we get use 6 pints a day but our fridge in now big enough, if we freeze the milk, then we can buy more in one go. The milkman here cost 49p per pint, tesco is £1.69 for 6 pints....

Wig

ariba10 wrote:

The thing that intrigues me in this thread is "Organic milk"
I read an article in a national paper at the end of last year on how they get organic eggs. Apparently you feed an ordinary chicken on a mix of 80% organic feed and 20% of anything for six weeks and on the first morning of the seventh week it lays organic eggs. Is it the same for cows.

The organic egg business has been allowed to adapt for a number of years due to some idiosyncracies in the nature of the business, I don't know exactly why.

From the 1st of January 2006, the rules have changed. Now if you want an organic egg, the pullet (chick) has to be from fully organic stock or fully organically fed from hatching.

To answer your question..........No, cows and cows milk are not the same. Chicken eggs have been a special case for market reasons and they are no longer a special case.

Wig

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